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<br />O~:1251 <br /> <br />33 <br /> <br />ARKANSAS RIVER COMPACT. <br /> <br />higher, there is a little bit of headwater area between Trinchera <br />Creek mvolving only a few square miles from which the drainage is <br />from New Mexico mto Colorado. Throughout the years, the only <br />actual development up in that high water area is the irrigation of a <br />few acres of hay meadow, and such as that for some ranches lying up <br />in there. <br />. It iSlrobable that the actual potentialities of that little headwater <br />ar,ea 0 Trinchera Creek have been completely developed because <br />irrigation is old up in the Trinidad country. . <br />Mr. MILES. Would you say that under the terms of that compact, <br />whatever rights they have are protected I <br />Mr. KNAPP. I am quite sure this compact will put no limitation <br />upon New Mexico's right to go ahead and use water up in that high <br />area in anJ' way that the physical circumstances of that high altitude <br />permits. Of course, it is not anticipated that water would be diverted <br />to some other watershed and phYSIcally the yield of that small high <br />area is very small. It is not anticipated that the compact will put auy <br />limitations whatsoever upon the use of water up in that area. <br />Mr. MILES. Thank you. <br />Mr. MURDOCK. Thank you very kindly, Mr. Knapp. <br />Mr. KNAPP. Thank you. . <br />Mr. MURDOCK. We have the Federal representative, General Kra- <br />mer, here, and from all the comments I have heard, he has done .. <br />splendid job in this particular case. <br /> <br />STATEMENT OF HANS KRAMER, BRIGADIER GENERAL, UNITED <br />STATES ARMY, RETIRED, REPRESENTING THE UNITED STATES <br />ON THE ARKANSAS RIVER COMPACT COMMISSION <br /> <br />General KRAMER. I am Hans Kramer, brigadier general, United <br />States Army, retired. <br />By appointment of the President, under date of November 20, 1945, <br />I was designated as representative of the United States to participate <br />in negotiations between Colorado and Kansas on a compact for the <br />division of waters of the Arkansas River. <br />. Mr. MILLER. May I ask the general what his background is, how <br />long he has been in the Engineers, and where he has been in the last <br />10 years. <br />General KRAMER.' I entered the service of the United States in 1915. <br />I served continu.ously as an officer of the Corps of Engineers from 1918 <br />until 1945 in all grades from second lieutenant to brigadier general <br />I was retired iiI 1945 in February for physical disability incident to <br />the service. <br />In addition to my service as Federal representative, I was elected <br />by the State commissioners as chairman of the joint commission and <br />functioned in that capacity throughout the compact negotiations. <br />Those negotiations began in January 1946 and terminated at the <br />signing of the compact in December 1948. <br />I would like tD introduce, if I may, for the purposes of completmg <br />the record, a copy of Public Law 34, Seventy-ninth Congress, ap- <br />proved April 19, 1945. That is the basic act upon which this compact <br />rests. And I think it is appropriate that it be in this record. <br />Mr. MURDOCK. 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