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<br />ARKANSAS RIVER COMPACT.
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<br />higher, there is a little bit of headwater area between Trinchera
<br />Creek mvolving only a few square miles from which the drainage is
<br />from New Mexico mto Colorado. Throughout the years, the only
<br />actual development up in that high water area is the irrigation of a
<br />few acres of hay meadow, and such as that for some ranches lying up
<br />in there.
<br />. It iSlrobable that the actual potentialities of that little headwater
<br />ar,ea 0 Trinchera Creek have been completely developed because
<br />irrigation is old up in the Trinidad country. .
<br />Mr. MILES. Would you say that under the terms of that compact,
<br />whatever rights they have are protected I
<br />Mr. KNAPP. I am quite sure this compact will put no limitation
<br />upon New Mexico's right to go ahead and use water up in that high
<br />area in anJ' way that the physical circumstances of that high altitude
<br />permits. Of course, it is not anticipated that water would be diverted
<br />to some other watershed and phYSIcally the yield of that small high
<br />area is very small. It is not anticipated that the compact will put auy
<br />limitations whatsoever upon the use of water up in that area.
<br />Mr. MILES. Thank you.
<br />Mr. MURDOCK. Thank you very kindly, Mr. Knapp.
<br />Mr. KNAPP. Thank you. .
<br />Mr. MURDOCK. We have the Federal representative, General Kra-
<br />mer, here, and from all the comments I have heard, he has done ..
<br />splendid job in this particular case.
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<br />STATEMENT OF HANS KRAMER, BRIGADIER GENERAL, UNITED
<br />STATES ARMY, RETIRED, REPRESENTING THE UNITED STATES
<br />ON THE ARKANSAS RIVER COMPACT COMMISSION
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<br />General KRAMER. I am Hans Kramer, brigadier general, United
<br />States Army, retired.
<br />By appointment of the President, under date of November 20, 1945,
<br />I was designated as representative of the United States to participate
<br />in negotiations between Colorado and Kansas on a compact for the
<br />division of waters of the Arkansas River.
<br />. Mr. MILLER. May I ask the general what his background is, how
<br />long he has been in the Engineers, and where he has been in the last
<br />10 years.
<br />General KRAMER.' I entered the service of the United States in 1915.
<br />I served continu.ously as an officer of the Corps of Engineers from 1918
<br />until 1945 in all grades from second lieutenant to brigadier general
<br />I was retired iiI 1945 in February for physical disability incident to
<br />the service.
<br />In addition to my service as Federal representative, I was elected
<br />by the State commissioners as chairman of the joint commission and
<br />functioned in that capacity throughout the compact negotiations.
<br />Those negotiations began in January 1946 and terminated at the
<br />signing of the compact in December 1948.
<br />I would like tD introduce, if I may, for the purposes of completmg
<br />the record, a copy of Public Law 34, Seventy-ninth Congress, ap-
<br />proved April 19, 1945. That is the basic act upon which this compact
<br />rests. And I think it is appropriate that it be in this record.
<br />Mr. MURDOCK. With no objection, it will be admitted in the record.
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