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<br />ARKANSAS RIVER COMPACT
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<br />Mr. MILLER. There is about 100,000 acres held back for irrigation
<br />purposes?
<br />Mr. KNAPP. The Caddoa Reservoir has a conservation pool of
<br />slightly over 400,000 acre-feet.
<br />Mr. M,LLER. Do the irrigation districts make any payments for the
<br />benefits they receive! Do they make any payments on the cost of
<br />the dam or for the construction for the benefits they receive!
<br />Mr. KNAPP.. They did not, and there is no provision in Federal law
<br />for that, as Mr. Vidal explained, to some extent. I would prefer that
<br />General Kramer, the representative of the United States who, inci. .
<br />dentally, in his capacity in the Engineer Corps, started the construc-
<br />tion of that dam. So he is the person who worked. on it.
<br />Mr.. MILLER. The reason I ask is that I was wondering about it get-
<br />ting into Nebraska so we can irrigate about 300,000 acres.
<br />Mr. KNAPP. Congress expected that that reservoir would serve the
<br />purpose of solving the interstate problem, which it has done, and it
<br />was constructed under the 1936 Flood Control Act in the manner men.
<br />tioned by Mr. Vidal.
<br />Mr. M,LLER. Will these three counties be able to improve their
<br />irrigation, districts and even bring more land under irrigation be-
<br />cause of the John Martin Dam 1
<br />Mr. KNAPP. They will not in either State be able to bring more land
<br />,mder irrigation. The water supply is not adequate. The water
<br />users in eastern Colorado and, to a greater extent, in western Kansas,
<br />uuder these old established canals, have had a very uncertain and
<br />erratic water supply.
<br />Mr. M,LLER. This will l;enefit them, though, will it not 1
<br />Mr. KNAPP. This will help to stabIlize the water supJ;>ly for those
<br />existing systems. The Arkansas does not produce suffiCIent water to
<br />enable any expansion whatsoever. All it does is to make i quantity
<br />of water, that hitherto has been winter .flow and summer .flood waters,
<br />which have gone to waste, usable, and to convert a portion of that into
<br />usable water. That is divided 60 percent to Colorado and 40 percent
<br />to .Kansas, and 'will. help to stabilize the areas but will provide no
<br />additional water for construction.
<br />I believe, gentleinen, that is all I have to say.
<br />. I want to make it very clear that the legislature has unanimously
<br />approved this, and that. the people in the area out. there were com-
<br />pletely for it, and we did not think it necessary to bring a great many
<br />people back here to tell you that. .
<br />Mr. MURDOCK. We are very glad. to have this splendid and positive
<br />statement from you, Mr. Knapp. .
<br />Were there any questions that you gentlemen would like to ask of
<br />Mr. Knapp?
<br />Mr. MILES. Mr. KnapPl in your deliberation of this compact on the
<br />waters, were the waters otN ew Mexico considered! .
<br />Mr. KNAPP. Only in the manner set forth therein.
<br />We had material discussions on that. In the beginning of . our
<br />deliberations, Mr. Charles Patterson, chief engineer of the Colorado
<br />Water Board) was a member and later he resigned, as I believe was
<br />then reported to you. There were two engineers on the. Compact
<br />Commission. We, as engineers, gave careful thought to the physical
<br />situation. Up there in a high mountain area, getting up toward the
<br />elevation of Raton Pass, with which you are familiar, or even a little
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