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<br />0:: 1250 <br />32 <br /> <br />ARKANSAS RIVER COMPACT <br /> <br />Mr. MILLER. There is about 100,000 acres held back for irrigation <br />purposes? <br />Mr. KNAPP. The Caddoa Reservoir has a conservation pool of <br />slightly over 400,000 acre-feet. <br />Mr. M,LLER. Do the irrigation districts make any payments for the <br />benefits they receive! Do they make any payments on the cost of <br />the dam or for the construction for the benefits they receive! <br />Mr. KNAPP.. They did not, and there is no provision in Federal law <br />for that, as Mr. Vidal explained, to some extent. I would prefer that <br />General Kramer, the representative of the United States who, inci. . <br />dentally, in his capacity in the Engineer Corps, started the construc- <br />tion of that dam. So he is the person who worked. on it. <br />Mr.. MILLER. The reason I ask is that I was wondering about it get- <br />ting into Nebraska so we can irrigate about 300,000 acres. <br />Mr. KNAPP. Congress expected that that reservoir would serve the <br />purpose of solving the interstate problem, which it has done, and it <br />was constructed under the 1936 Flood Control Act in the manner men. <br />tioned by Mr. Vidal. <br />Mr. M,LLER. Will these three counties be able to improve their <br />irrigation, districts and even bring more land under irrigation be- <br />cause of the John Martin Dam 1 <br />Mr. KNAPP. They will not in either State be able to bring more land <br />,mder irrigation. The water supply is not adequate. The water <br />users in eastern Colorado and, to a greater extent, in western Kansas, <br />uuder these old established canals, have had a very uncertain and <br />erratic water supply. <br />Mr. M,LLER. This will l;enefit them, though, will it not 1 <br />Mr. KNAPP. This will help to stabIlize the water supJ;>ly for those <br />existing systems. The Arkansas does not produce suffiCIent water to <br />enable any expansion whatsoever. All it does is to make i quantity <br />of water, that hitherto has been winter .flow and summer .flood waters, <br />which have gone to waste, usable, and to convert a portion of that into <br />usable water. That is divided 60 percent to Colorado and 40 percent <br />to .Kansas, and 'will. help to stabilize the areas but will provide no <br />additional water for construction. <br />I believe, gentleinen, that is all I have to say. <br />. I want to make it very clear that the legislature has unanimously <br />approved this, and that. the people in the area out. there were com- <br />pletely for it, and we did not think it necessary to bring a great many <br />people back here to tell you that. . <br />Mr. MURDOCK. We are very glad. to have this splendid and positive <br />statement from you, Mr. Knapp. . <br />Were there any questions that you gentlemen would like to ask of <br />Mr. Knapp? <br />Mr. MILES. 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