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<br />Mr. IRELAND. Mr. Chairman and gentlemen of the committee, since.
<br />the committee appears to be concerned with the significance of this.
<br />New Mexico situatiOli, I think possibly It gr!l>pftic way to show youJ'..:
<br />what a relativ~ly sm",ll ar~!1 is affecte<j,.woulg,be to pass aroundthis,.<.', :"~\:::'?"'~'" ,::",- :j,;
<br />map of the watershed, anityou wHIM..lte thl!;1li'ihere are. two d~rJdy ;:'~:,,":'>"'" ::...',":';,....:.....,...,.... '<'i:...}'+'
<br />shaded areas which are the small areas in New Mexico which in every / (;',.:'..:~ ,.'i";",,:,,"':":::<C:' .'.,,;.... '. :. 'S"::'.:,,,:
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<br />west is not affected III any event, because that is in the Rio Grand" :::~j..L t,'",." -.'-:";F.;."::;"" ';'-- ",'"-'.":"',,,;
<br />Basin. It is jiIst that one small black area to the east. ,":~ .'v;' . ".....C".
<br />. Mr. MURDOOK. Thauk you, Mr. Ireland, you may proceed. '\::.': " ""'''.c'''
<br />Mr. IRELAND. I appreciate the valuable time of this committee, and. S.\ ...."";>i.,:.\',d>
<br />I will only attempt to touch upon certain points upon which there, ,:~;',\:!";;:tf.;;!,. ,"'i,',;
<br />does seem to be particular interest. .. """"'"
<br />First, the inquiry has been made as to. whether we .know why 5 out ., ":;:t~ ",:,:,.'.>', ,>, : '.,.'"
<br />of 65 members of the House of Representatives did not see 1l:t to vote' :i',;,.> ":v'" '",,,,""::, '":'''
<br />for this bill.:"".."...,:.:"...' :,,, ....,:::t:'
<br />The reasons they assigned out loud .",ere, so far as I..cQuld determine" . ,.i:'.. '//::.: "'?:
<br />not based on clear understandiug 'of the bill. Th\lY:~re not intelli-: ,,,':;:;',>>
<br />gent objections; they indicated fear that this compact or any compa{\t ....c.'",., :'" .''''
<br />would crystalize and. setttle and' determine rights which maybe 100 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,-,!,/:,.',.:;.,
<br />years from now someon~ mightdr~gret haying so settled. That hap. '~"\":;~:'i<:'fl:""};:~::::;;:'
<br />pens when any compact IS entere llltO. .;:):'f.:; ".
<br />There were one or two who hahd certain selfish interests. on t1iat1 "
<br />river who would much prefer to ave had a free river withou.t any
<br />limitations on them.
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<br />ARKANSAS RIVER COMPACT
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<br />Mr. STONE. The Federal re.presentative,General Kramer, who is;
<br />charged with representing the mterests of all of the Federal agencies,.
<br />will go into detail and explain that, Congressman.
<br />Mr. MILLER, Would you say that the Army engineers, under the-
<br />provisions of the compact, were to handle the irrigation features, or
<br />would it be done by the Bureau of Reclamation!
<br />Mr. STONE. There is no occasion, so far as John Martin Dam is.
<br />concerned, for the Bureau to come in under its present operation,
<br />because all of the lands benefited both above and below John Martin
<br />Reservoir are private lands presently irrigated. There is no occa-.
<br />sion to construct auy new canals or distribution system whatsoever;.
<br />General Kramer will go iuto detail on that.
<br />Mr. MILLER. Thank you.
<br />Mr. STONE, The next witness, Mr. Cb.airman, isMI'. Gail L. Ireland,
<br />one of the Colorado Commissioners.
<br />Mr. Ireland is former Attorney General of the State of Colorado,.
<br />and he is one of the outstanding water lawyers of the State.
<br />Mr, MURDOCK. Mr. Ireland, we will be glad to hear you now.
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<br />STATEMENT OF GAIL L. IRELAND,MEMBER, WATER CONSERV ATIOW,
<br />COMMISSION OF COLORADO
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