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<br /> <br />OC1245 <br /> <br />ARKANSAS RIVER COMPACT <br /> <br />the easements or rights-af-way far the reservair wauld have ta be paid <br />far by the lacal peaple. Tha~ cast would have aggregated an estimate <br />.of $5,000,000., In the meantul1e, Cangress passed the Flood Control <br />Act .of 1938, which relieved that abligatian nat only an this reservair <br />but ather f1aod-contral praje,cts. Therefare, that part which wauld <br />represent the canservatian benefits which were ta be paid far by the <br />lacal peaple was eliminated and the cast went entirely ta the United <br />States. That is haw it happened. ' , <br />Mr. BARRETI'. Thankybu very much, Judge Stane. <br />Mr. WELCH. Is the J ahn Martin Dam Reservair a multiplepraject! <br />Mr. STaNE. Yes, it is far f1aad cantral and navigatian. ' <br />Mr. WELCH. Da yau get electric pawer fram it! <br />Mr. STaNE. There is na pawer fram it. <br />Mr. MURDaCK. Judge Stone, befare yau call the next witness, and <br />we are attempting ta hurry alang sa that we mal. hear all of yau <br />gentlemen fram .outside .of the city at this sessian, If possible, I want <br />ta make .one inqui~y. " .. '., <br />Yau had ta take lita cansIderatIOn) III .order ta be lagICal, th,s small <br />stream that was within .or thraugh tne State .of New Mexica, but yau <br />said as a precantian that New Mexico's rights were safeguarded sa <br />that she might do anything she pleased with the water .of that small <br />stream. <br />Mr. STaNE. That is right. <br />Mr. MURDaCK, I want ta cammend yau far yaur cautian, and far <br />yaur gaad judgment in that part .of the camp act, althangh the stream <br />, IS small with aminal' partian .of water. <br />Mr. BARRETT. Mr. Chairman, will yauyield tame,far an abserva- <br />tian an that paint! , " ' <br />Mr. MURDOOK. Very well." , ' <br />Mr. BARRE~'r. I wauld Jj.at'read the language ta be qnite sa liberal <br />as yau indicate. I ,do nat knaw just where that sectian is naw, but <br />it says, "The rights .of New Mexica, if any." It leaves them hanging <br />out an a limb as ta whether they have any rights .or nat. ' <br />Ida nat like tasay that they said here, "We are gaingta pratect'your <br />rights, period." It ddes not say that. It says, "If yau have any' <br />rights," and I read that language ta mean that there is considerable <br />questian as ta whether they da have any rights.. <br />Wauld yau nat say that is fair, Judge! " <br />Mr. STaNE. Mr. Ireland can explain thatl and I will ask him t.o da <br />it. My understanding .of it is,'fram'a practIcal pairit .of view, if there <br />ic cansiderable questIOn .of whether there are anr patentialities far <br />the use .of that water in New Mexica, that "if any' gaes t.o a practical <br />matter rather than a legal matter. ' <br />We believe that language means and is intended ta mean that if <br />there are any rights there they can use them, and if they did exist <br />they are sa small they wauld nat interfere with this campact in <br />any way. <br />Mr. MILLER. I have .one questian, if yau are thraugh, Cangressman. <br />Mr. BARRETT. Yes. ' <br />Mr. MILLER. Judge Staue, in yaur apiuian, where daes the Depart- <br />ment .of Interiar and the Bureau .of Reclamatian Came inta the picture <br />in relatian ta the irrigatian features under the J ahn Martin Dam! <br /> <br />.."J"'" <br /> <br />,""' <br /> <br />"; <br /> <br />..i ." <br /> <br />27 <br /> <br />-it <br />