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. ~ ~ B-23 002738 Mr. Pfulb. It's the same old problem, not that it can't be done. But, this was a first, any time you set up a special task force to do something, as traditionally should be done, organizationally, internal organization, would be done other ways, it causes strain, and problems. So, the honest answer is certainly yes. You have to work constantly at overcoming these things. I think we have. But, as a matter of fact when this task force was set up, we were suppose to be done in five years. I'm constantly having to work at trying to make sure we're done in 1980. So that we phase out. There is this problem. Colonel Vandenberg. tee should be to come in in the next three years. Maybe the charge to the Technical Subcommit- with an answer to Phil's question something Mr. Macias. One thing that probably should be kept in mind is that in the States of Arizona and Nevada at least, and this part of California, there are, the lands, a large percentage of the lands are under public domain and there is going to be pressures to use the resources of those lands for aiot of the things Neil talked about, grazing, mineral development, geothermal development, all kinds of uses recreation, and even though we may know already a lot about what these resources are, we may not have the best in ideas about how these resources should be allocated to the various conflicting uses and the management systems that should be used, that the public can accept. The public domain lands belong to the United States and to all the people and all the people need to be happy about the plans that'are developed for them. If we wait until the conflict arises, which is one way to do it, and the crisis arrives, to then begin the planning we will always be playing catch up. Now, I don't know whether that's one approach. Mr. Dunn. If there were to be a major effort in the Federal Government, following on this study, apparently, since he is finish- ing in 80, it would require major 81 budget requirements. This means that a decision would have to be made at the highest level in Interior by the spring of next year. If this organization is going to move in that area we've got to move rather rapidly in the next few months, before the next meeting and then the December meeting. Mr. Macias. My suggestion to have this presentation was just to be aware of this activity and its impacts and to see where it might be of value to have it in the rest of the desert area. Then perhaps consider what it, whether this Committee had any interest in proceed- ing with any actions that might be either for or against this kind