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<br />Agency, they will probably push that to 25 to 27,000 acre-feet of <br />water consumed per year. Interestingly, much of the oil shale <br />industry, including Garrett, TOSCO, and I think Superior, are assuming <br />a net export of electrical energy. <br /> <br />Some companies, Colorado-Ute and Public Service, I believe, are in I <br />conversations with the industry concerning electrical energy require- <br />ments for the oil shale industry. I think there is a little bit of <br />conflict here. Is there, Jim? <br /> <br />Mr. Temple: I am Jim Temple, manager of the western division of <br />Public Service Company. You asked a specific question and r don't <br />think you have a specific answer to it depending on which process <br />you are talking about and just where the location is. Obviously, <br />under the Colony type operation, it looks like some place in the <br />neighborhood of 2 kw per barrel of oil. If you take that and.put <br />that into the million barrels per day, you are talking about two <br />million kw of electrical energy some place along the line. That is <br />just about what the total generating capacity of the Public Service <br />Company is today. <br /> <br />Mr. Sparks: For all of Colorado? <br /> <br />Mr. Temple: That is right. Some of these plants obviously will have <br />some on-site generation. There is some low btu gas, as I understand, <br />as a by-product which can supply some of their thermal energy in the <br />plant. Some of it could possibly be converted into electrical energy. <br /> <br />Mr. Stapleton: Thank you, Jim. <br /> <br />Mr. Sparks: Needless to say, we must consider the electrical energy <br />requirements of the oil shale industry in arriving at the total water <br />supply required. The only immediate plans we know of for increased <br />electrical production is the plant now being planned on the Yampa <br />River just below Craig. That is a plant being planned by a consortium <br />of companies and we anticipate that the construction will start this <br />year. That is a convential thermal plant utilizing coal and will <br />require the consumption of a considerable amount of water. The plans <br />are to eventually bring that plant to a capacity of around 900 <br />megawatts. That would be equal to the capacity of the hydro plant <br />at Glen Canyon. <br /> <br />We are basing our estimates on the conventional method of producing <br />power from coal. Those are the only plants we know about in the <br />immediate future. Considerable electricity will be required for <br />direct use by the oil shale industry. In addition, would be the <br />associated human population in the area of 5,000 people that were <br />mentioned for each 50,000 barrel a day plant. They also will require <br />considerable quantities of electricity. We think it would be a <br />mistake to compute the oil shale water requirements without including <br />the generation of electrical energy in the water consumption figures. <br /> <br />I <br /> <br />-15- <br />