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<br />MR. STAPLETON: <br /> <br />MR. ROZICH: <br /> <br />We have not as yet seen them. The reason we <br />are awaiting them and are anxious to get going <br />is that on December 23rd President Nixon issued <br />a Presidential Order directing that industries <br />had to make such application by July 1st of <br />this year. It just says application. It does I. <br />not say they have to have their permit by that <br />date. The word I got from Colonel Lovejoy, <br />I don't know whether it is General or Colonel <br />Ott in Omaha is going to attend a meeting the <br />latter part of this week in Washington at <br />which he hopes to pick up further information <br />on this. The procedure will be, they will <br />mail the application to the industry, the <br />industry will fill out the application, return <br />it to us, our people will then certify as to <br />whether a permit should be issued or not <br />issued, and then it will be returned to the <br />Corps. They will work with the EPA. The EPA, <br />which is the Environmental Protection Agency, <br />can also ask that a permit be denied over both <br />the state and the Corps, as I understand it. <br /> <br />There is also a fine or penalty provision <br />in this act. Maybe you read about three months <br />ago where a woman and her child picked up, I <br />think, $12.500. In other words, if a violation <br />occurs, the state or the federal people through <br />the Department of Justice can take action. <br />However, any private citizen can also take <br />action. If they locate a discharge that they <br />feel is in violation, they can go to the De- <br />partment of Justice. If they take it to court <br />and a fine is issued, they get half of the <br />fine. This woman and her child saw for a <br />number of days a concrete truck that was dis- <br />charging the concrete it had left in the truck <br />at the end of the day into the East River. <br />The fine was $25.000, so they picked up <br />$12,500." <br /> <br />1 <br /> <br />"What was the name of that law again?" <br /> <br />"The 1899 Refuse Act." <br />