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have. Felix, will you get into this now, please?" MR. SPARKS: "You.have a map on which we have prepared an overlay of the proposed all-federal ~ystem. That overlay is indicated by dotted blue lines. The solid blue lines were the original ~ap and indicate the existing Bureau of Reclamation transmission systems as they connect th~ various Bureau powerplants. In red we have indicated those portions of the all-federal trans~ission system which the proposal of the investor utility companies would eliminate. ' The thing that has disturbed us gr~atly, when you put this down in front of you, ;is the fact that the proposal of the investor ~tility companies isolates each and everyone of these various reclamation projects. Even witqin our own Project it isolates Flaming Gorge from Glen Canyon and Curecanti. We think that was sort of a deliberate thing because we c~nnot conceive by coincidence these private pqwer companies were just going to happen to qon- struct those lines anyway. As you will note, by this system the pro- posal of the investor utilities would separate all these projects and separate our own'proj- ect. Now the great disadvantage of this is that there is a tremendous amount of money to be made for our project and these other,proj- ects if we can shift secondary power baqk and forth by a system of credits without having to pay a toll charge. But by the utility in- vestor companies proposal we felt that Je would be paying both ways - when the power was bor- rowed from one plant to another and the~ when it was returned. And we think it was a:delib- erate attempt on the part of the investqr utili- ties to levy such a toll because we can~ot believe that this was sheer coincidence 'that their lines happen to coincide with the 'lines that the Bureau of Reclamation has plan~ed. If you will recall, under Public Law 485, the \ Secretary was directed to interconnect ~hese various plants. That amounts to a tremendous ,',." I I