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<br />amount of money which has never been computed <br />in any payout study and which does not reflect <br />in anything which the Board has ever seen. <br /> <br />I <br /> <br />We started out with the assumption, in our <br />study, we were concerned only with one thing, <br />and that was the amount of dollars that was <br />coming to Colorado to build these participating <br />projects. This Board, nor our staff, has never <br />taken a stand in the past nor do I think that <br />we will in the future, in this controversy of <br />public vs. private power. We could care less <br />about that controversy. What we are interested <br />in is the future of the State of Colorado. We <br />were confronted with two systems neither one of <br />which we think is the best as illustrated on <br />that board. But at this time, at least, the <br />federal system is much preferable to the system <br />as proposed by the private investor utilities. <br />The tragedy of this situation is that these <br />investor utilities belong in the power scheme <br />and unless they do come in here by intercon- <br />nection, there will be a great loss of money <br />both to their stockholders and to our project. <br /> <br />I <br /> <br />As I said, we had started out with certain <br />basic assumptions. First we examined the cost <br />to the private companies of constructing trans- <br />mission lines. We found out from the Federal <br />Power Commission that the Public Service Com- <br />pany of Colorado, for instance, receives 14.11 <br />percent return on its capital investment for <br />plant and substations and l3.81 percent for <br />investment on transmission lines. Now all we <br />have to pay the federal government for its <br />investment is less than six percent. So it is <br />an absolute impossibility, we think, for these <br />private companies to compete with the federal <br />government in the construction of transmission <br />lines. The differential in these costs goes <br />to our Project Fund. That's what we build <br />these participating projects from. As a matter <br />of fact, it has been a cry for many years, and <br />it's true I think, that the private investor <br />utilities have constantly complained that the <br />federal government can construct these facili- <br />ties cheaper than they can. They've said that <br />