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<br />MR. STAPLETON: <br /> <br />MR. KUIPER: <br /> <br />MR. STAPLETON: <br /> <br />MR. KUIPER: <br /> <br />MR. STAPLETON: <br /> <br />MR. KUIPER: <br /> <br />MR. STAPLETON: <br /> <br />MR. KUIPER: <br /> <br />MR. STAPLETON: <br /> <br />"I have the letters from the utility cqmpa- <br />nies which were presented to the Board and in <br />a quick summary of them I don't see any of <br />these figures presented there. Mr. Kuiper ,: can <br />you throw any light on where those figures come <br />from? II <br /> <br />I <br /> <br />"These figures in Governor Johnson's state- <br />ment?" <br /> <br />UYes.1I <br /> <br />"The figures in the first column headed <br />'Utilities' are figures that were taken frqm <br />the utilities' evaluation." <br /> <br />"This is after the wheeling concessions?" <br /> <br />"No, this is before the wheeling conce,,!sions. <br />The figures in the second column, as taken from <br />the Bureau's presentation, I think Governor, <br />Johnson explained my position on it, that the <br />arithmetic in each case I can agree with, the <br />method by which it was derived at I cannot." <br /> <br />"Then this schedule doesn't accuratelyre- <br />flect the utilities' proposal as it is now , <br />presented. Is that correct?" <br /> <br />"It would, as it is now presented. The <br />new utility proposal goes into effect after the <br />first fifty year period of operation." <br /> <br />"Governor Johnson, I have just one more, <br />question and I hope you understand that I a~ <br />just trying to straighten myself out." <br /> <br />GOVERNOR JOHNSON: "I will be glad to have you ask me any <br />questions you want. I have absolutely nothing <br />to hide. I want to make it as clear as I can <br />to everyone the facts that I believe are <br />accurate." <br /> <br />MR. STAPLETON: <br /> <br />I <br /> <br />"This is one of the most serious questions <br />in my mind and it is contained on the bottom of <br />that same page. It,is talking about Governor <br />McNichols and says 'However, I had no idea the <br />