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.JU:7U MR. STAPLETON: MR. SPARKS: MR. STAPLETON: know. The thing that upset me so were the projects." "The reason I asked, we are trying to plan. As you know, we will be having meetings in January, March and Mayor June in this fiscal year. There has been the question raised as to whether or not we have sufficient travel funds for the January meeting if the cut is not restored in this area, and we couldn't have the March and June meetings. Now June is traditionally a meeting where we go out to some part of the community and review the proj- ects they have and look them over. I think this has been most helpful, as you and I have talked about before. I Now I would appreciate if some indication to Mr. Sparks from you as Coordinator could be made to see what we can do about that travel cut because this is an imminent part of our planning, even for the January meeting." "I might say, Mr. Stapleton, that what we tried to do, we eliminated two engineering positions from our staff and asked for one higher staff position back in return for them which affected a considerable savings in our staffing pattern. The result is that we have not hired anyone. We have simply eliminated the two engineers' positions and we will accumu- late a substantial savings in our salaries this year. I spoke to the Controller sbout attempt- ing to transfer some of that savings over to our travel budget. I mentioned that also in the hearings Saturday before the Budget Com- mittee and so far there appears to be no objec- tion to that. If that can be done, we will, I think, be in a pretty fair condition, and with what Mr. Eckles has helped us with in getting the project money back we should be able to get by for the rest of the year, if money is trans- ferred from salaries over to our travel." I "I might make the suggestion to Mr. Eakes and others who are interested that Mr. Oakley