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<br />I <br /> <br />I <br /> <br />Mr. Ten Evck: I don't think the record does. The comments today have <br />not been. <br /> <br />Mr. Ford: I don't oppose conservationists. I do oppose preservationists. <br />I can see they have problems. But I still think they have enough rules <br />and regulations on the books to adequately protect natural areas. <br /> <br />Mr. Stapleton: All right, now I would like to get some of the people <br />in the audience that want to ask some questions. Mr. Hauk is probably <br />the most knowledgeable specimen that we have had for some time. I <br />think John Barnard had the first question and the lady behind him next. <br />Mr. Barnard. <br /> <br />Mr. Barnard: The question I have is, is it not true that in addition <br />to the water resources the view was proposed by the Governor at that <br />time the Forest Service was defining wilderness in accordance with the <br />Wilderness Act , and very recently it has been redefined for adminis- <br />trative purposes to relax the stringent requirements that it be essen- <br />tially undeveloped and now it is something less than that or that it <br />be undeveloped? <br /> <br />Mr. Hauk: Not inside these wilderness areas. <br /> <br />Mr. Barnard: Of course, the only wilderness areas are those that have <br />been designated by Congress and have been designated under regulations <br />from you too. Is it not true that in the prior proposal because of <br />the fact that this area or some of these areas had roads in them, it <br />did not meet the quality of wilderness areas as the Forest Service is <br />trying to determine here? <br /> <br />Mr. Hauk: Now you are talking about the yellow areas. <br /> <br />~tr. Barnard: Right. This is correct. It is not inside the original <br />primitive or green area. <br /> <br />Mr. Barnard: Yes. And those areas to be included were excluded not <br />only because of the water resources, but it was because they did have <br />man made work in them already and this could be not up to the quality <br />of wilderness as it was then interpreted. <br /> <br />Mr. Hauk: That ,is correct. <br /> <br />Mr. Barnard: The second question I had is one that has nothing to do <br />with the Meadows Reservoir site of water resource development, but it <br /> <br />-33- <br />