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DRMS Permit Index
Permit No
M2012032
IBM Index Class Name
Permit File
Doc Date
1/14/2013
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RESPONSE TO STORMWATER ADEQUACY COMMENTS
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GREG LEWICKI & ASSOCIATES
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DRMS
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TC1
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RCO
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half pipe channels were estimated by the Division's engineering staff to have a half - <br />velocity -head of greater than 4 feet. As such these channels are not properly designed <br />because insufficient freeboard is available. <br />a. Please provide a rationale for the selected roughness coefficients, and evaluate <br />each designated channel /ditch design slope for both capacity and stability. NOTE <br />— the `flow capacity" and "velocity capacity" presented on the drawing is not <br />specifically related to the design flows. <br />b. Please design all engineered ditches with the appropriate freeboard and provide <br />channel design depths for construction. <br />SMO Response <br />Table 6 -1 contains the hydraulic calculations for all of the channels in question. These <br />calculations include a set for an anticipated minimum Manning's n (stability) and a set for the <br />maximum Manning's n (capacity). The two sets of calculations show the maximum flow that the <br />channel can handle given the design inputs. These are then compared to the Channel <br />Requirements to determine if the design is sufficient in both cases to contain the flow with the <br />minimum required freeboard (either 0.5 ft. or greater than one -half the velocity head of the <br />anticipated flow). Map G -5 shows the design detail for each channel segment, with dimensions <br />(freeboard + depth of flow = design depth for construction) and basic geometry. <br />DRMS Comment <br />Map G -7: <br />23. As discussed in Comment #22, the velocity in the half pipe channels can be expected, in <br />some cases, to well exceed 20 fps. Please provide some hydraulic calculations to <br />demonstrate the 10 -foot long rock -lined energy dissipation zones are sufficient to <br />dissipate the hydraulic energy; and demonstrate the proposed 24 -inch riprap will be <br />adequate. <br />SMO Response <br />As shown in Table 6 -2, the highest flow velocity from a half pipe culvert on a steep slope into a <br />"earth" channel is 13.0 fps (Div #1B Final Segment 2 into Segment 3). Therefore the energy <br />dissipation zone has been designed around this interface. <br />Using a procedure from Applied Hydrology and Sedimentology for Disturbed Areas (Barfield, <br />Warner, Haan. 1983. Pg. 534 -6) the length of the energy dissipation basin needs to be either <br />3W (W half pipe diameter) or 10h (h = depth of scour). The overall basin length is 4W or <br />15h whichever is greater. For the design shown on Map G -7, h = 0.96 ft and W = 4.0 ft., <br />requiring a length of dissipation pool of 12 feet and a total length of 16 ft. A riprap lining of D50 <br />= 0.5 ft meets the requirement of 2 < h , 4, from the Barfield procedure. <br />
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