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Barickman if it passed by the pavilion located in the park, and Mr. Barickman replied no. Mr.
<br />Banner asked Mr. Barickman if there was other commercial traffic that used the park and the
<br />public right -of -ways through the park, and Mr. Barickman replied yes. Mr. Banner asked Mr.
<br />Barickman what those were. Mr. Barickman replied trash trucks, septic trucks, home delivery
<br />trucks, school buses, County maintenance trucks, County gravel trucks, propane trucks, and
<br />farm equipment. There's less traffic on the weekends with the commercial vehicles, but during
<br />the week there are probably more commercial vehicles than regular passenger cars that go
<br />through there. Mr. Banner asked Mr. Barickman how he would characterize the traffic on the
<br />haul route he is proposing through the park during the five days of the week he is proposing to
<br />use it, and Mr. Barickman replied very limited. Mr. Banner asked Mr. Barickman
<br />notwithstanding the fact there are school buses maybe six times a day, trash haulers, FedEx,
<br />UPS, and all those people, has there ever been any congestion on the route, and Mr.
<br />Barickman replied no, he had never seen any congestion at all. Mr. Banner asked Mr.
<br />Barickman if there had ever been a time when he personally witnessed the traffic held up for
<br />more than ten minutes, and Mr. Barickman replied no. Mr. Banner asked Mr. Barickman if he
<br />carefully checked the mileage from his property gate through the park that he would have to
<br />drive to haul the rock out, and Mr. Barickman replied yes. Mr. Banner asked Mr. Barickman
<br />what he gauged it to be, and Mr. Barickman replied just shy of four - tenths of a mile. Mr. Banner
<br />asked Mr. Barickman if he had driven his car along the same route they're talking about at the
<br />approximate speed he would drive if he were hauling rock, and Mr. Barickman replied yes. Mr.
<br />Banner asked Mr. Barickman how long it took him to pass through the park from his gate, and
<br />Mr. Barickman replied at a speed of 10 -12 miles per hour it took less than 2 minutes. Mr.
<br />Banner asked Mr. Barickman if there was a speed limit he would place on anyone hauling rock
<br />out from his property. Mr. Barickman replied yes, noting he would be willing to take advice from
<br />the Commission and didn't think there was a speed limit posted. Fifteen miles per hour or less
<br />would be something he would direct to his drivers or any other commercial trucks. Mr. Banner
<br />asked Mr. Barickman why he is proposing 15 miles per hour, and Mr. Barickman replied for
<br />safety reasons and dust. Mr. Banner asked Mr. Barickman if he paid monies to local
<br />businesses and individuals to maintain the rock clearing and removal process, and Mr.
<br />Barickman replied unfortunately yes. Mr. Banner asked Mr. Barickman how much he would
<br />estimate his annual fuel cost for the operation. Mr. Barickman replied through October 15,
<br />2011, the gas, primarily through the local gas stations, exceeded $15,000. Mr. Banner asked
<br />Mr. Barickman how much he pays annually for labor, and Mr. Barickman replied for the first nine
<br />months in 2011 it was right at $20,000. Mr. Banner asked Mr. Barickman how many part-time
<br />employees he has, and Mr. Barickman replied five. Mr. Banner asked Mr. Barickman how much
<br />he annually pays for insurance to insure the operation, and Mr. Barickman replied $3,000-
<br />$3,500. Mr. Banner asked Mr. Barickman in addition to that, about how much he pays for
<br />supplies, equipment maintenance, and advertising, and Mr. Barickman replied it added up to
<br />over $22,000. Mr. Banner asked Mr. Barickman if it would be fair to say in the short operating
<br />year, his expenses for the operation, paid mostly to local people and businesses, was around
<br />$65,000, and Mr. Barickman replied yes. Mr. Banner asked Mr. Barickman if he was correct in
<br />saying the number of months he would actually do this are limited, and Mr. Barickman replied
<br />yes, due to the weather. Mr. Banner asked Mr. Barickman if he hauled in the winter, and Mr.
<br />Barickman replied it would depend on what kind of winter it was. If it starts snowing in the trees
<br />the snow builds up and he can't get back there. Mr. Banner asked Mr. Barickman if he could
<br />build his house on the property without clearing the rocks, and Mr. Barickman replied no, not
<br />where he wants to build it.
<br />Mr. Raso asked Mr. Barickman if the zoning on the property was A -1 or A -3, and Mr. Barickman
<br />replied he was told it was A -3. Acting Chair Ozzello asked Mr. Barickman if he had anything
<br />else to add. Mr. Barickman replied he has been in the Rye area for 25 years and involved in
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