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I, <br />11 2s <br /> 1 MR. NAGEL: I don't think that the drainage patterns <br /> 2 has been looked at in enough detail. I think there is: too much <br />' 3 water coming down the roadway. <br /> 4 MR. COOLEY: Wouldn't that water end up down there in <br /> 5 that area on the City of Colorado Springs property anyway? <br /> 6 MR. NAGEL: It would, but what we have is vclume and <br /> ' ' <br /> 7 flow rates. And it <br />s s causing the scour. <br />the flow rate that <br />t 8 It's causing the dama ge. It's the same concept as when you have <br /> 9 a wide river, and you have bridge crossing. The bridge crossing <br />' 10 is built at the narro west point of the river. The water is <br /> 11 always moving faster. And that's why scour is an important <br /> 12 d <br />i <br />f <br />t <br />h d <br />ti <br />b <br />id <br />f <br />l <br />k <br /> es <br />gn <br />ea <br />ure w <br />en y oun <br />ons. <br />ou are <br />ge <br />a <br />oo <br />at <br />r <br />' 13 MR. COOLEY: And we are dealing here with an alleged <br /> 14 violation, and can yo u tie it into that or is it just ~3 quality <br />' 15 design or what? <br /> 16 MR. NAGEL: What I think it speaks to is erosion. That <br /> 17 the fa <br />t th <br />t w <br />h erasion is <br />causin <br />w <br />te <br />hi <br />h <br />l <br />it <br /> ave <br />c <br />a <br />e g <br />a <br />a <br />g <br />ve <br />oc <br />y <br />r <br />I' 18 the violation. <br /> 19 MR. COOLEY: Well, I don't really find that on the <br />' 20 staff's report. But I am still having trouble connecting it with <br /> 21 that--with this case. <br /> 22 MR. NAGEL: I thought Dan had four items on his report. <br />' 23 And I thought erosion was one oP those. He does have erosion <br /> 24 sedimentation marked. He has roads marked, hydraulic balance <br /> 25 marked, and ofY-site damage. So he has four particular <br />