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(Deposition of James Tatum) <br />1 delays in getting that done other than that and <br />2 taking -- for whatever taking of the surface was <br />3 involved and restoring damaged areas that were <br />4 damaged during the construction. That was the gist <br />5 of it. <br />6 Q. Okay. You communicated all of this to <br />7 Carl Winters? <br />8 A. Carl is about the only person I ever <br />9 talked to about it. At the tag end, evidently from <br />10 this letter to Robin Forte, they got in the <br />11 picture, but I don't really remember having much to <br />12 do with Robin about this particular issue, and <br />13 about that same time, or at about that same time I <br />14 was in contact with them about trying to buy what <br />15 is called the sheep camp property, and I think our <br />16 letter of April 2nd relates to that -- excuse me, <br />17 at that same time they were horribly overgrazing <br />18 all this country in here. Robin Forte was not a <br />19 cow man, and this country, prior to that time had <br />20 been leased to a Louis Hagger, H-a-g-g-e-r, who was <br />21 really abusing the country. They had hired young <br />22 Ernie Trujillo as a land manager or ranch manager, <br />23 but he wasn't knowledgeable in the area either, at <br />24 that time. That was his first job experience along <br />25 that line. We tried to lease the property and cut <br />40 <br />MEEK & ASSOCIATES <br />3016 3rd Ave., Pueblo, Co 81008 (719) 542-1010 <br />