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14 , <br /> 1 violation that we've talked about and I think it's time to <br />• 2 start thinking about it. <br /> 3 THE CHAIRMAN: Yes. At the same token, ~•re <br /> 4 still want to treat this person equitably with what we have <br /> 5 done in the past. <br /> MS. WINTER: I'm suggesting it's almost <br /> 7 impossible to do ghat. <br /> $ THE CHAIRMAN: Well, that's understandable. <br /> 9 MR. FRENCH: Well, let me just-- <br /> 10 MS. ~r]INTER: There was another one I might <br /> 11 just mention. <br /> 12 'Phirty-one operations were fined $18,000 and <br />• 13 paid $4,000. Now this is one operation and it is a very <br /> 14 small one. <br /> 15 MR. FRENCH: I'd like to rake a point of <br /> 16 clarification, if I might. <br /> 17 I just got involved in this. I'm advised by <br /> 18 my clients that they did have a meeting--I don't know who it <br /> 19 caas with--sometime in June. I caould call Mr. Leukonen to <br /> 20 testify to this, but he indicated to me that there was <br /> 21 perhaps--were you the party that met with him? <br /> 22 MR. McARDLE: Not that I can recall. <br /> 23 MR. FRENCH: (Directed to Mr. Leukonen) Do <br /> 24 you recognize anybody here? Does anyone look familiar? <br /> <br /> 25 MR. L. LEUI(ONEN: What is this fellow's name <br /> El7.EF..\' Ca RPl. \'7 ER & :1SSOC/.9 TES l \'C. <br /> Gru(ed S'Lon L,rnJ Rrp,~nrn <br /> 7ttlp (hrr r.. Jlr RnaJ <br /> Lu drrorr. Gdnre,ln 8r1CI <br /> !0.i Iq I-.f'f.i <br />