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13 <br /> 1 THE CHAIRPTiAN: Yes. There is one variable <br />• 2 in there that I don't think you mentioned. <br /> 3 I think that was the variable that people <br /> q came in first, without being caught. <br /> 5 MS. WINTER: But, I think--no, they were caught, <br /> 6 and that's part of the cooperation, I guess. <br /> ] THE CHAIRMAN: Oh, yes. <br /> $ MS. WINTER: All ti~ose people came in because <br /> y they were caught. <br /> 10 MR. ZALKIND: Mr. Vasquez and Mr. Pearson <br /> 11 also were subpoenaed. I think they came in on the second <br /> 12 subpoena instead of the third effort. <br />• 13 f•15. WINTER: This gentleman didn't receive the <br /> 14 first one. You could hardly, you know, count one, two, <br /> 15 three, if he didn't get it. <br /> 16 THE CHAIRMAN: This is a problem t}~at we <br /> 17 continuously wrestle with; how to get a little bit of <br /> 1g equability in this business of issuing civil penalties. <br /> 19 If we could put dollar numbers to the score <br /> 20 of 34, then that is the next step, I suppose. <br /> 21 MS. WINTER: That's right. <br /> 22 THE CHAIRMAN: We don't want to use this <br /> 23 man as a guinea pig. <br /> 24 D1S. FIINTER: Oh, exactly. <br /> <br /> 25 I'm bringing it up because this is the first <br /> E!!. EF..Y' C:1 R PEh'TEF S .1 SSOC! i TE.C. l.~ C <br /> Crnifnl ShrnhonJ Rrporrw~ <br /> 1 S00 C hrr. i ri/Ir R. mJ <br /> <br /> 101~~M11 ,Y'A.1 <br />