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discussed internally at the Division that these secondary rip rap sites might need a permit from our Minerals <br />Program. It was, however, decided instead that all rip rap source sites, used for the purposes of meeting the <br />requirements of our subsidence control laws and regulations, should be permitted under our program <br />regazdless of the ownership of the lands upon which they would be situated. As such, we decided that rip <br />rap source sites on USFS and/or MCC lands (or other private lands) would need to be permitted by us, and <br />would need a reclamation plan and a bond that would meet our requirements. <br />A third source of rip rap, that of loose rock from the recent McClure Pass rockslide stockpiled near the <br />slide by the Colorado Department of Transportation, has been discussed with us. We believe that removing <br />these materials with the permission of CDOT in a manner that would not create additional surface <br />disturbance would not need to be permitted through our program. <br />A fourth source of rip rap, that from a local gravel company, was also discussed with us. Use of rip rap <br />obtained from a gravel company for the dam strengthening would not need Coal Program approval. We <br />suggest MCC ensure that the gravel company from which the rip rap is obtained is in compliance with the <br />applicable laws and regulations governing our Minerals Program. <br />A fifth source is mentioned in the July 2 20071etter: that of "loose, visible rip rap" that "would be obtained <br />within 200 feet of FS road 71 l: ' This material would be "hauled with a trackhoe or front end loader to a <br />truck on road 711 for loading and further transport." We believe that materials removed from USFS roads <br />themselves would not need sepazate approvals from us, so long as no additional disturbance is created. <br />Approval from the USFS may be needed, however. We believe, however, that removal of materials from <br />areas beyond the edges of those roads for the purposes of complying with our subsidence control laws and <br />regulations should be permitted through us, as well as any other pertinent local, state or federal agency. <br />MCC: Vegetation of the disturbed area within the construction envelope is proposed in accordance to <br />reservoir company's operating plan as currently being revised by the Forest Service. Again, a reclamation <br />bond should not be applicable. <br />As mentioned above, we believe that activities conducted for the purposes of complying with our <br />subsidence control laws and regulations will more often than not require permitting under our rules. We <br />welcome submittal to us of the USFS's reclamation plan or the purpose of meeting our reclamation plan <br />requirements. However, we would additionally need bond money to cover the cost of that reclamation. It <br />is possible that MCC may already have this money in our offices in the form of "surplus" bond money. <br />MCC: MCC does not view this project as a typical "Reclamation" and/or "bondable"project as the <br />project is owned by the MCRC. Please cite specif c rules if DRMS proposes otherwise. <br />We understand MCC's position that as the dam strengthening project is "owned" by MCC, it should not be <br />bonded. We respectfully disagree. We believe that as the dam strengthening is being done for the purposes <br />of complying with our subsidence control laws and regulations, the dam strengthening and its associated <br />activities should be regulated by us so faz as our laws and rules apply. Compliance with applicable laws <br />from other local, state and federal agencies that govern the dam strengthening would also have to be <br />complied with. Please see the attachment for a list of some of the laws and rules that provide the basis for <br />our determination. <br />