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25 <br /> 1 A. It was Fugro and Huddleston-Berry's 1 would you believe that representation is accurate? <br /> 2 mainly. 2 A. Yes. <br /> 3 Q. Okay. And do reclamation plans and 3 Q. Okay. Now, I want to ask you, have you <br /> 4 experts generally rely upon investigations by other 4 seen or observed any indications at this location that <br /> 5 experts, geotedrdcal engineers or geophysicists? 15 a vent shaft might have once been located there? <br /> 6 A. Yes. We frequently use other experts 16 A. Yes. That area has a slight mounding of <br /> 7 to -- to give us information necessary to do a 7 soil over it to kind of indicate that it was a <br /> 8 reclamation plan, stability work and that sort of 8 backfilled air shaft, and there's also nearby some coal <br /> 9 thing. 9 fines that are located north and west of that site, <br /> 10 Q. Okay. You know, I think before we go 110 which would indicate that a fan was located-- <br /> 11 on, one of the things I want to clear up is sane li operating there and blowing some -- a few coal fines <br /> 12 discussion we had yesterday about a rock pile. Let me 12 out onto the surface. <br /> 13 see if I can move this back. On this same exhibit — 13 Q. Okay. So do you generally find those <br /> 14 MR. JUSTUS: How do I move this back? 14 mine maps to be reliable? <br /> 15 MR. STARK: Right click, and then 15 A. Yes. <br /> 16 there's a "previous." 16 Q. Okay. And you have also seen these <br /> 17 MS. MOJAR: You can also use the buttons 17 physical characteristics at that location? <br /> 18 on the keyboard. 118 A. I have. <br /> 19 MR. JUSTUS: Okay. That will help. Oh, 19 Q. Okay. So going back--make sure I'm <br /> 20 I went too fast. 20 operating this right -- to -- do you believe the <br /> 21 Q. (BY MR. JUSTUS) All right. Mr. Stover, 21 statement in this slid is correct, that that is -- the <br /> 22 are you familiar with the area that we've been 22 actual vent shaft location is accurate? <br /> 23 discussing for the last two days? 23 A. No, it's not. That is incorrect, and <br /> 24 A. Yes. 24 any references to that picture as the vent shaft <br /> 25 Q. All right. And yesterday we heard a lot 25 location should be corrected. <br /> 198 200 <br /> 1 of discussion in cross-examination about this rock 1 Q. Okay. Thank you. Why don't we now go <br /> 2 pile, where it was located, and what this represents as 2 ahead and talk about the repair plan, and we're going <br /> 3 far as whether it is the location of the air shaft or 3 to move back to Slide, I think it's, 10 or 11 of this <br /> 4 something else. 4 Exhibit A. It's Slid 10 of Exhibit B of the State. <br /> 5 Where is this rock pile located on the 5 Why don't you walk us through — and you <br /> 6 map? And I'm going to go down a couple. We'll use the 6 can use your repair plan submitted in December of 2016 <br /> 7 Fugro map since that was the focus of that discussion. 7 as a point of reference -- and talk the Board through <br /> 8 If you could use this pointer and point out for the 8 that repair plan. <br /> 9 Board exactly where that rock pile is located. 9 MR. BECKWITH: If we do, can we enlarge <br /> 10 A. There (indicated). I'm shaky. 10 page 10? <br /> 11 Q. Okay. And what is the blue line 11 MR. JUSTUS: Yeah. <br /> 12 immediately to the east of that location? 12 MR. BECKWITH: I don't kruwr how it's <br /> 13 A. That's the Ute -- Ute waterline, and 13 done. <br /> 14 it's -- that rock pile is very close to that line 14 MR. JUSTUS: Do I need to kill this? <br /> 15 there. 15 There we go. <br /> 16 Q. Okay. As far as where the location of 16 MR. BECKWITH: Thank you. It's just <br /> 17 the vent shaft has been marked on that map, do you 17 more readable. Thank you, Mr. Justus. <br /> 18 believe that's appropriate? 18 Q. (BY MR. JUSTUS) If you need to use the <br /> 19 A. Yes. That's the yellow circle with the 19 pointer at all to guide the Board, please do. <br /> 20 cross in the middle of it. That's where the vent shaft 20 A. I don't know if I can. Okay. The <br /> 21 is located. 21 contour interval there is 2-foot intervals. <br /> 22 Q. All right. And you have compared that 22 Q. The contour interval where? <br /> 23 location to the old mining maps? 23 A. Up on the repair plan area is really <br /> 24 A. Yes, I have. 24 the -- it's where the contour intervals are. <br /> 25 Q. Why don't we go back up and look. So 25 Q. Is this (indicated) what we're talking <br /> 199 201 <br />