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..,'. .",'" f."- )" ~, .' J f '~' , 39 2 a 21 FRYINGPAN-ARKAN~AS PROJECT, COLORADO In the first place- Mr. CHENOWETH. I wonder if the map could be brought up closer, Mr. Chairman, so the members could get. a het.t.er view. . Mr. PALMEn. The gent.leman from Colorado, Mr. Chenoweth, has mentioned the project was designed primarily for supplement.al ir- rigation for the Arkansas River Valley, If you hring water into the area and plan to do this comprehensive job of multIpurpose devel- opment, you are obligated, at the same time, to look at all of the other segments and services that could be provided by that project, The water quality problem in these towns in the valley here IS pretty difficult at times and the water quantity is sometimes pretty short. So, of the municipal water supply, the 20,000 acre-feet Mr. Chenoweth mentioned, there are about 10,000 acre-feet that would be diverted in the. vicinity of Canon City into Colorado Springs. There are about 10,000 acre-feet of that water that would be diverted from Pueblo Reservoir and go by this conduit [pointing] about 150 miles down tbe valley as far as Lamar and up to Eads. All of this water is needed, all of it. The local interest is strong in support of securing that water for the two problems I mentioned earlier. All of the costs involved would be fully reimbursable with interest. Now the statement that local interests have gone about as far as they cun go is ,'ery definitely true because of t.he very ob,'ious reasons from looking at the map. This conduit, and the cost of getting this new water from the west slope into this area, is beyond the abIlity of the local interest.s. It probably would strain them OR anything else ex- cept the basis that has heen devised as a segment of a true multipur- pose. de,elopment. Mr. Ogilvie, do yot~ care to add anything on that 1 Mr. OGILVIE. No, sIr. Mr. HALEY. Now, Mr. Palmer, the water supply that is gOiRg to be used by Colorndo Springs nnd Eads-is that right, some of it 1 Mr. PALMER. This whole group of cities all down the vnlley. Mr. HALEY. Is that supposed to be repnid to the Federal Govern- ment, the cost of that 1 ?tir. PAL].{ER. Yes, sir. Mr. OLSEN. Will thegentlemaR yield ? Mr. HALEY. Yes. Mr. OLSEN. It is rough for the new members to follow these ques- tions when we do not know the project yet. If the man with the rod could describe it to us at this point, I think we could follow your ques- tions a little bit better. Mr. HALEY. Well, that is the Fryingpan-Arkansas project or the "Arkansas iR the Fryingpan." I do not know which one you want to call it. Mr. ROGEns. Wlmt di~ you have in mind, Mr. Olsen? Mr. OLSEN. I would l1ke to know where the water is cGming from and just a gener;!.] deseription of this project before we get into the detailed quest.iOII'B. These questions do not mean a thing to the new members this wuy. Mr. SAuND. Does the gentleman yield 1 Mr. OLSEN. Mr. Haley has th~f1oor. Mr. HALEY. I have no Gbjection to letting t.hem explain it. t tr.i