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<br />O~lC68 <br /> <br /> <br />ARKANSAS RIVER COMPACT <br /> <br />17 <br /> <br />Mr, IRELAND. That is correct, <br />''I'he CHAIRMAN, Is there any other provision in the compact which <br />is different rrom the traditional method or handling water! <br />" Mr, IRELAND. I believe not, Mr, Chairman, I think that consti- <br />tutes t,he only radical departure rrom what has generally been accepted <br />in previous compacts and what is a part or the respective laws of the <br />two States, <br />The CHAIRMAN, So that aside from that the compact is merely a <br />division of the waters between the two States! <br />Mr. IRELAND, That is right, <br />General KRAMER, May I prompt Mr, Ireland to mention, if I may, <br />Mr, Chairman, the provision that the compact does not provide any <br />bookkeeping, any keeping of records of credits or debits between the <br />two StatBs, I think that is a rather unique feature in an interstate <br />water compact, Mr, Ireland, I am sure, can develop that point, and <br />it maybe of interest to the committee. <br />Senator KERR, Doesn't the compact contain express frovision that <br />there shall be no making up of debits or accumulation 0 credits! <br />Mr, IRELAND. It does so provide, <br />Senator KERR, Isn't that in there in specific form! <br />Mr. IRELAND, In so many words, , <br />I might say this, which r had intended to say : We had the a,dvantage ' <br />of approximately 3 years of operating under so-called interim execu. <br />tive agreements entered into between the two States, That provided <br />us a reasonably long period of experimentation, At first we tried this <br />s;ystem of trying to keep books. We round it was practically impos- <br />SIble, No two people could just exactly agree on how much water they <br />were talking about from time to time, We saw that it was not a <br />practical way to handle the situation and in the interest or gi~ing the <br />users or both States the most opportune use, the most effectIve and <br />efficient use, we finally arrived at this understanding or an approxi- <br />mate 60-40 withdrawal in rate of flow from the reservoir, with too <br />specific provision in the compact that at the end of each season, or at <br />any given time, there would be no books kept and there would be no <br />carry-over one way or another. <br />We believe that the wRter users and the Rdministrative officials of <br />both StRtes, with the assistance or a reasonable-minded administrative <br />agency, will so hndle the discharge or that water Rnd the applicRtion <br />of that water for beneficial use that both Sates will benefit equitably <br />and without too much hindrance, That in some WRYS is Rn innovRtion <br />and something new in compRCts, not keeping books, <br />The CHAIRMAN, Are there any other questions! <br />( No response,) <br />The CHAIRMAN, Thank you very much, Mr. Ireland, <br />Judge Stone, do you hRve any other witnesses for Colorado! <br />Mr, STONE, Mr, ChRirman, that concludes the presentation in sup- <br />port of the compact on behalf or Colorado, <br />Mr. GMrge Knapp is here, I believe, to announce the witnesses for <br />KRnsas, ' <br />The CHAIRMAN, MRY I say at this point that SenRtor Johnson of <br />Colorado advised me he is presiding at the heRrings of the Committee <br />on Interstate Commerce this morning and for that reRson WRS unable <br />to be present. <br />, Senator Schoeppel, do you desire to make a statement! <br /> <br />"", <br /> <br />, ~, <br /> <br />,~ <br />