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000199 -18- MR. YATES. Yesl we will surely be asked. MR. MICHENER. To me the e~pense is very material. .. ~, MR. 30I"S. The States ought not to pay the expense of that com- missioner, because he would be under suspicion, especially if they gave him a lar ge fee, of b ei ng influenced, and he ought to be free. MR. CARPENTER. I would most heartily concur in that. I lmow that as commissioner from Colorado I would not oare to be compensated by any- body else, and I would not care to have any part of my expense borne by anyone else, I .",u1d wish to be free to enter or withdraw as I may be advised, MR. BOIES. This plan suggested here, to my mind, gives jurisdic- tion to every possible interest that might CO,1e in, and their interests will all be determined and forecast in this prooeeding, the Government as well as the States. l1R. C RP"NTER. The_t is the final analysis of the subject, and the interests having been settled, both tha States and the Government may proceed "i th some degree of oertainty as to future investments, You know the investments in those enormous reservoirs in the canyon will run into many millions, and the investments in the States already run into many millions; I mean toe investments by privete individuals. l. Without any disposition to in uny way dotract from the wonderful work that has been done by governmental agencies, I simply want to call your attention to the fact that I am advised that the 1910 census shows that of all the lands irrigated in the United States 2-1/2 percent only were served by Government projects, and that probably the 1920 census will show probably not over 5 percent of those lands served by United States projects. My reason for mentioning that is to call to your at- tention the fact that the greeter development has been by what is known as private capital and the Lee's Ferry development now proposed. It is not a Government project at all. It is proposed by the California Edison Co. primarily f or the purpose of generating pow r for the supply of Los Angeles and that whole region. ~IR. BOIES. Have you any information about whPt the comparative expense is on the part of the various individuals and the Nation for the results obtained? MR. cPRPEI,TE:R. Havin!; had an unpleasant di sagreement with one mem- ber of a governmental d ep9J'tment here respecting the t, I wou 1d not care to enter upon that subject now. I m;.ght state that the.t matter has been more or less in controversy, and I do not know but what, as usual, +'here is merit on both sides.