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i.JQJ193 -17- 1911. There were 267 days consumed from the beginning to the end in the taking of testimony in that case, It has been twice argued, but because of the conditions, and it being an interstate problem between two sovereignties of the Union; the court is taking its time to finally arrive at a decision. .' Thtlt is a long period; during which there ha7e been several changes of political tldministration. Judges have died, and conditions have mtlteria11y altered and changed in both Stntes in many regards. Had this matter been taken up in the first instance, the L tter there in c ontro-" versy, and the States entered s~riously upon a consideration of that river, a greater part of the contention upon it could have been elimi- nated by compact, without question, and the same may be said of other river s. To return just for one moment to the problem of expense, and then I wi 11 not take more of your time, I was just stating that the detailed information was being prepared by these various bureaus, In our State of Colorado, and in New Mexico and Arizona likewise, the commissioner is to look to the engineering machinery of the state for detailed facts and information. It mibht well be suggested in this quarter that the commissioner for the United states would naturally look to the Reclama- tion Service, the power interests, the Geological Survey, and other advisory bureaus for his information, and each of the States having its facts largely in hand, the expense of presenting to the commission such informction as may be necessary would probably largely be cered for in these quarters, So the expense to the United Strtes and to the States of the commission itself would be largely that of the compensation of its COlTr.1issioners and the representative on behalf of the Goverrnnent, including their traveling and other incidental expenses, and the sharing of that expense of the commission itself - that is, its stenographers and other machinery. I.fit. MICH3N;;:R. He would be expected to provide for a share of that general expense? MR. CARP;;:!IT';R. Yes. MR. MICHENER. When I say "we" I mean the Uc_.' ted States Goverrnnent. , MR. CfJlP;:;PT3R. I think it would be proper that the Government should, but if it did not, the States would doubtless do it anyhow, MR. GOODYKOOl!TZ. It would seem to Ire that the expense is a mere trif1in~ incident to our object in developing that phase of the matter; but ",hen this cO:lIlittee takes the bill on the floor of the House it will be asked a good many questions about that, and we ought to be prepared to make sane intelligent reply.