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<br />OC1266
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<br />ARKANSAS'RIVIDR COMPAC.T,
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<br />General KRAMER. Quite the contrarYithey are glad to have the
<br />water withheld. Their problem is, of. course, one of preventing excess
<br />water from getting down to the lower Staws. .' .
<br />I am sorry that Mr. Knapp did npt develop that point, because he .
<br />is well informed on that particular phase of the problem as regards
<br />the flow of water from Kansas into Oklahoma, and if you will permit
<br />me to pinch-hit for him, I will attempt to speak on that phase of it.
<br />The normal flow at the State line between Kansas and Oklahoma
<br />is upward of a million cubic acre-feet per year. The normal flow in
<br />western Kansas is less than 100,000 feet; That isless than 10 percent.
<br />If there were interstate interests, and I may say parenthetically
<br />this subject is covered in my formal'report, if there were such inter-
<br />state interests on the part of Oklahoma, even carrying it farther down,
<br />then even Kansas itself in the eastern part would. be as much interested
<br />as a lower State, because Kansas is on the lower river and suffers from
<br />its floods.
<br />The flood-control aspects involved in ,this compact arise out of the
<br />pool created, or, rather, the reservoir storage created by John Martin
<br />Dam of which 280,000 feet is dedicated for flood-control purposes.
<br />The irrigation water is not normally permitted. to encroach upon
<br />that storage area. .
<br />Mr. MURDOCK. Mr. Knapp, did yOllli want to supplement that i
<br />Mr. KNAPP. Mr. Chairman, if the committee desires, I can, in about.
<br />1 minute sum up the questions that have been discussed.
<br />Speaking from the standpoint of a mail who for 30 years this com-
<br />ing June has handled such matters officially as the State engineer
<br />customarily does, I can sum that up. . '
<br />Mr. MuilDOcK~ We would be glad to have that,
<br />Mr. KNAPP. The original, what we engineers call virgin water sup-
<br />ply of the up~er Arkansas River above Garden City, Kans., or above
<br />the Kansas-Colorado State line, is in the, neighborhood of about
<br />1,100,000 acre-feet per year.
<br />Development began many years ago, and that natural original
<br />water supply has been so completely consumed in eastern Colorado
<br />. and western Kansas that the average annual run-off at Garden City, .
<br />that is, belo~ our principal irrigation has, since records are available,
<br />been approXImately 170,000 acre.flJ\\tI per year.
<br />You see, the upper supply has beeh almost totally consumed. The
<br />river then begins to flow ina region of higher. rainfall from around
<br />19 inches .at Garden City to about 35 inches at Wichita, and more
<br />farther down. .
<br />. In addition, more tributaries come in until during the same period
<br />when the flow at Garden City has been 170,000 acre-feet per year,
<br />conti'oIling of floodwaters, the flow at the Kansas-Oklahoma State
<br />line has been in excess of 1,000,000 acre-feet per year. .
<br />Now, this commission did not feel that taking out of the river that
<br />portion of the floodwater that could be made usable, which I person-
<br />ally estimated to be about 100,000 acre-feet per year, would make any
<br />noticeable reduction at the Oklahoma line. It might possibly take
<br />out about 100,000 acre-feet per year out of something- over a million,
<br />and the problem down that far, as it is in central Kansas is largely
<br />one of dealing with excess floodwaters rather than involving any
<br />question whatsoever of ,shortage of waj;er supply.. '
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