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<br /> <br />Mr, Morrill, Wes, I have a question. As you well know, there are <br />those in all areas, even in the Denver area, who would like to have <br />us reduce or prohibit any lawn watering or shrubs or that sort of <br />thIng, as a means of not using any more water, for an increase of <br />population. Do your projections contemplate a reduction in the per <br />capita use in municipalities? <br /> <br />Mr, Steiner, Yes, they do. Quite a substantial reduction. I <br />wouldn't want that to be understood as meaning that I thought that <br />would mean there wouldn't be any additional lawns. But we are talking <br />about a very substantial reduction. We have allocated the CAP supplies <br />to municipalities on the basis of a very substantial reduction, not <br />just in the use of CAP water, but in their total system supply. We <br />have allocated it on the basis that they would improve their efficiency <br />by about, as I remember it, about a third. <br /> <br />Question. You mentioned augmenting the supply beyond CAP, some- <br />thing in the wind on that, <br /> <br />Mr. Steiner. Not really, I'm convinced that the State of Arizona <br />has to establish its policies for the foreseeabl,> future. I'm talking <br />about some time certainly after the t4rn of the century. Maybe many <br />many decades after that on the basis that they learn to live with <br />what they've got. Including the remaIning entitlement in the Colorado <br />River, The reason I say that is that all the studies that I'm aware <br />of that have been made relative to desalination of sea water, desolv- <br />ing geothermal water, bringing water in from an area of surplus, like <br />the Columbia, that you, by the time that you get that water to Central <br />Arizona, you would be talking about at least 300 to 350 dollar5 an <br />acre-foot and there is no market for that kind of water You could <br />only achieve a unit cost of 300 to 350 dollars an acre- foot if you <br />built something very large, at least 5,000,000 acre-.feet That means <br />you have to have a substantial agricultural demand. Well there isn't <br />any agricultural demand in Arizona or Southern CalifornIa that I'm <br />aware of, ur Nevada, that can pay 300 to 350 dollars an acre-foot <br />and there Isn't any source of subsidy for that in the foreseeable <br />future, Now you know if the United States decides to feed the world <br />and wants to create, to do this it's going to have to bring into <br />development some of this substantial acreage in the southwest that <br />is not currently irrigated, You might see thIS sort of thing, an <br />importation on augumentation, take place. But after that when the <br />cities, and industries can, and almost 90 percent of your water is <br />being used by agriculture, and the cities and industries can buy that <br />water away from agriculture for roughly $50 an acre-foot, there really <br />isn't any economic incentive to get involved in one of thse big <br />augmentations, very capital intensive augmentation systems. Plus <br />the tremendous environmental problems ,that you would have in anything <br />like that. Now I didn't mention weather modification. There may <br />be some potential for weather modification. But I really feel that <br />as far as Arizona ability to garner apart of that, that it would be <br /> <br />f <br /> <br />B-12 <br />