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<br />DJlJ836 <br />22122 <br /> <br />which said-and I Quote theIr <br /> <br />. thl. bill <br /> <br />report: <br /> <br />We bcHeve the eoncept or Federal-Stll.te <br />coopernuon In river basin plllDnJng and de- <br />velopment, IlS proposed In the blll, 1.s not <br />only desirable but consl.6tent witb lIound <br />principles ot intergovernmental relatlona In <br />our Federal ftY6 tern. Success or the propooed <br />progrnm ot course would depend on the <br />way 10 which both levels of government <br />react to their re.!lpOllelbllltles. By bnvlng aD <br />aeLlve role in 'Cobe plll.nnlng procese, the <br />Btales wauld ha.ve nil added 1ncentlve to <br />undertake developmental and construction <br />proJecta contained In the plana developed <br />by bnsln canunLsslonll . . .. <br />Insofar 88 wa are aware, the proposed <br />Federal-State structure for river ba.sln com- <br />rnls.&lons would establish B novel pattern for <br />furthering Intergovernmental cooperation. <br />but one of mnjor advaDtage to our Federal <br />eystcm In Ul.at It is adaptable to cbanglnll' <br />times and circumstances. <br /> <br />i <br />, <br />" <br />, <br />i <br /> <br />I must confess that I am a little bIt <br />proud of the fact that in the prepara- <br />tion of this bill there has de"cloped an <br />agency pattern which this great Com- <br />mission has described as something new <br />and novel, which can be of major ad- <br />vantage In furthering Intergovernmen-. <br />tal cooperation within our Federal <br />system. <br />My pride in It Is partly based on the <br />source of that comment. The Advisory <br />CommIssion Is not a partIsan body, but <br />a bipartIsan commission of outstanding <br />practJUoners of the art 01 government at <br />. every so.cnlled level within our system. <br />It includes. besides our three distin- <br />guished Senate members, Governors <br />John Anderson, of Kansas. and Robert <br />E. Smylie, of Idaho, Mayors Richard <br />Batterton, of Denver, Raymond Tucker. <br />of St. Louis. Neal BlaIsdell, of Hawal1, <br />and Arthur Na.ftal1n, of Minneapolis. <br />The Chairman of the Commission is an <br />outstanding political scientIsts and ad.. <br />mlnlstrator, the Honorable Frank Bane. <br />Title m of the measure before U5, Mr. <br />President, Is the mlnlmwn program of <br />aid to States for water resources plan. <br />nlng proposed In the select committee <br />recommendatJon No.5. It authorizes <br />the appropriation at $5 mllllon each year <br />for 10 Years, to be apportioned out to <br />Ute St~tes on a matching basIs, to de. <br />velop State water plans, Including both <br />intrastate and interstate water re. <br />15ources. their own independent planning, <br />and planning wh.lch may be done by <br />title II commissions, Interstate Compact <br />Commission. or other lnteratate water <br />planning agencies wIth which the State <br />works. <br />The formula for the distribution at <br />the State aid funds Is a rather complex <br />one, based on population, land area. need <br />for water resources planning, and finan-. <br />cIa! need. <br />On the average. States can get up to <br />50 percent matching. to pay the cost of <br />developing State water plans. IndIvid- <br />ual states will be eligible to more or less <br />than 50 percent matchJng depending on <br />their average per capita Income. If their <br />average per capita Income Is more than <br />the U.S. average, the ratio matchIng <br />will be less than 50 percent. If theIr <br />per capita Income Is low, and. they <br />have less than average Americans to <br />spend. then they will get more than <br />50 percent matchlnlr. The Peden.l <br /> <br />i. <br />I <br />1 <br />'- <br />I <br />I <br />i <br />I' <br /> <br />1 <br />I: <br /> <br />I <br /> <br />CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENA1Ji <br /> <br />matching is never to be more than two- <br />thirds or less than one-third. except in <br />Instances where the States adopt some <br />elabora.te scheme where even one-thJrd <br />of the cost exceeds their share of the $5 <br />mlUion under the populatIon area need <br />allotment. A State cannot get more <br />than Its allotment under the population <br />area Deed distribution originally made. <br />I am advised that this same formula Is <br />workIng well In the Pollution Control Act, <br />from which It was taken. <br />Title IV of the b1l1 has several house. <br />keeping provisions. One authorizes nec- <br />essary appropriatIons. Othel.s authorize <br />. rulemaklng. delegatIon of some functions <br />by the counell members, borrowing of <br />personnel for planning from established <br />agencies, where it Is agreeable to the em- . <br />ployIng agency. and provision of em- <br />ployee benefit programs. <br />During commIttee consideration of the <br />b1l1, we have adOPted several amend- <br />ments to make It satisfactory to the ex. <br />eeutlve agencies. We adopted one to <br />make it clearer that the measure does <br />not displace. supersede. or limit existing <br />interstate compact commissions and like <br />established agencies. . <br />As t.he report on the bill states, the <br />only disagreement with the executive <br />branch remaining. of which we are <br />aware, is an authorizing proviSion which <br />would allow the CIvil Service Commls... <br />slon to extend Federal employee beneflt <br />programs to commission employees. on <br />a contract basis. <br />We want the planning commissions to <br />have the very finest water resources <br />planning personnel. We dQ not want <br />loss ot Federa! employee benefits to be <br />a deterrent to working for a. commIs- <br />sion. We would like to see them become <br />an attraction. <br />In any event, we do not require the <br />Civil ServIce Commission to contract to <br />provide such benefit programs, we just <br />authorI~e them to, and then provide a <br />'tittle persuasion toward tha~ end in the <br />report on the bUl. <br />ThIs river basin planning bUI has more <br />widespread support. than anyone could <br />have conceIved pOSSible when the meas- <br />ure was first proposed. <br />President Dwight Eisenhower's Budget <br />Director sent a river basin planning blll <br />. up to Congress on January 18. 1961. It <br />did not even get Introduced In Congress <br />until President Kennedy, in July 19B1, <br />used the Eisenhower bill as the model for <br />title n 01 his bill. - <br />Our committee dJd not have a handful <br />of witnesses In favor of title n In presl.. <br />dent Kennedy's blU In the first series of <br />hearIngs. As revised, we have not had <br />a handful of opposition. <br />The Interstate Conference on Water <br />Problems. to which all 50 States belong,- <br />endorses It heartily, as does the Council <br />.of . State Governments, its parent <br />organization. <br />The National Reclamat.lon Associa- <br />tion, the National Rural Electric CooP- <br />eraUve Association, the National Associ- <br />ation of Sol1 Conservation DLstrict <br />Omcials and organizations which have <br />not been In the same room together tor <br />years tell us ti1lll blU Is all rJght. <br />BesIdes their endorsemeat through 'Lb.e <br />- _ council 01 States Governments and In- <br /> <br />-, <br /> <br />December 4 <br /> <br />terst.ate Conference, the officials at 33 <br />States have Independentt:,. sent in mes- <br />sages of approval. 6 more liked it with <br />certain amendments, and only 3 saw fit <br />.to oppose. <br />Mr. President, I belleve we have an <br />opportunity to take a step forward to- <br />ward this Nation's 55-year-old goal of <br />river basin planning by the enactment <br />of B. 1111. <br />I hope that the Senate will pass It <br />with a big majority as a recommenda- <br />tion to the House of Representatives to <br />do likewise. <br />Mr. President. I wish to compliment <br />the able Senator from Colorado [Mr. <br />ALLOTTI, who has been engaged In the <br />study of thIs bll1 over a long perIod of <br />Urne. <br />The Senator from Colorado wilJ offer <br />certain amendments. I appreciate the <br />way In which the Senator has worked on <br />the amendments. He has not suddenly <br />flashed them on the Senate. so as to <br />require Senators: to consider them sud- <br />denly. Over a long neriod of time he has <br />discussed the principles Involved. So far <br />as we can, we shall try to meet the objec- <br />tions and requests of the Senator from <br />Colorado, who has done an extremelY <br />outstanding job In this particular field. <br />He has done an outstanding Job In many <br />other fields, but this Is one field In which <br />I have seen his work, and I appreciate <br />the contribution he has made. <br />The PRESIDING OFFICER The bill <br />15 open to amendment. <br />Mr. ALLOTI'. Mr. Pr..ldent. wll1 the <br />Senator yield? <br />Mr. ANDERSON. I am happy to yield <br />to the Senator from Colorado. <br />Mr. ALLOTT.. I thank the distin- <br />guished senior Senator from New Mexico <br />for his kind remarks. I always enjoy <br />working with hIm on any matt.er which <br />pertains to water, because he is quite <br />knowledgeable In this field. <br />I am a llttle embarrassed to find It <br />necessary to offer amendments under <br />thel5e clrcumstancea. although the Sena- <br />tor has been entirely gracious about It. <br />The Senator knows and understands <br />that at the time of both markup ses- <br />sions on the bill in the Committee on <br />Interior and Insular Affairs I was com- <br />. petled to attend other committee meet- <br />ings. and Jt was Dot possible lor me to <br />attend the sesslol18 on the markup of <br />the bill or to present my amendments, al- <br />though the Senator and I have discussed <br />many ttmes the general nature of my <br />Ideas about the bUI. <br />. At this time I merely wish to express <br />my appreciation to the Senator. I be- <br />lieve other Senators would like to ask <br />him some questions. I will yield at this <br />time, 60 that they may do so, before I <br />make my statement. <br />- Mr. ANDERSON. Mr. PresIdent. I <br />understand the situation which the <br />Senator from Colorado "faced. He was <br />busily engaged in work on appropria- <br />tion bills, and in particular one bill with <br />respect to which he was the rankIng <br />member of the subcommittee. His pres- <br />ence was absolutely required.. <br />We discussed what we should do- <br />whether we should call off aU our hear- <br />'(ngs and. wait untU the Senator was free. <br />There II no way of knowIng when a <br />