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<br /> <br />compensation for the' farmer. Cities will <br />move up to the front of the Hne and say <br />to the farmers, I\You'Ugetydurwater,- but <br />we're going to use it' first. 'J <br /> <br />Q. WhaudxlUt changes in the Bureau? <br />A. Well, the daY. of building. the C-BT <br />and other projects are over1 It's kind of sad <br />for me, because my father started with the <br />Bureau at the time ofBould.er Dam, so we <br />date hack to 1933. We really don't have a <br />federal water program any more. If the . <br />Poudre Project is developed, and I think it <br />should be,it will have to be. done by the <br />District or the state. <br /> <br />Q. What was the relati07lShip between the <br />District and the Bureauduringyour tenure as <br />Project Manager? <br />A. The Bureau used to be a great deal more <br />powerful, but I always viewed it as a partner <br />with the District. During-qlY time, the <br />philosophy and policy in Washington was <br />to be .less involved, especially after 1977 <br />when President Carter decided there <br />should be a separate Department of Energy <br />and Department of Water, which forced us <br />to deal with another bureaucracy called the' <br />Western Area Power Authority. <br />Meanwhile, the District went ahead with <br />the Windy Oap Project while the Bureau <br />W;lS relegated to the job of carrying the <br />water over. Quite frankly. I don't think <br />we'll see any- more djversion projects. <br /> <br />Q. Do you have any views on changes that <br />might rake place in the future on East Slope <br />streams? <br />A. There Bfe some great things that can <br />be done in a river basin by exchanges with <br />one river system helping -out another in <br />case o{.shortage: The water"supply is . <br />seldom similarj it usually increases to the <br />south or to the north", :and there_ are many <br />opportlinities' for "exchanges wherever the <br />drought is worse. I would like to see a water <br />manager for the South Platte Basin, but I <br />think there is a lot of fear on the part of <br />these ditch companies and others about <br />who that manager would be. It would be a <br />powerful thing. Personally, I think the best <br />water system I know of in the world is the <br />. Thames Warer Authority in England <br />which serves London, and these people <br />have total authority over the water from <br />the time it fans as precipitation until it is" <br />discharged into the ocean. I think that <br />really makes the best use of the resource. <br /> <br />Q. What is the future for additional projects <br />Uke the C-BT? <br />A. In the Thirtiesl Forties, and Fiftiest the <br />Bureau was powerful enough; Congress and <br />the Senate supported it. That was the time <br />it seemed like we were able to do these <br />projects. I don't think the C-BT could be <br />built today with the environmental <br />consideration we have. At the same timeJ <br />I think the C- BT is an environmental <br />project. It made life for man better on me <br />East Slope, and I think that's why it's <br />worthwhile. <br /> <br /> <br />The District and the Bureau: <br />Thoughts on a PartnershiP <br /> <br />,? <br />....) <br />I..... <br />0':) <br />(,') <br />,"""'~,,, <br /> <br />Some have said that the roles are <br />reversing nOWj that the opee mighty <br />Bureau of Reclamation isitaking its cue. <br />from a previously silent p~rtner" the <br />Northern Colorado Water Conservancy <br />District. Others say that th~ Bureau's days <br />are numbered; that the C$rter <br />administration's decision eo create the <br />Department'o{Energy and Western Area <br />Power Administration in the Seventies <br />started the gradual demise ;of an <br />organization whose slngulari.mission was to <br />reclaim western lands. Wilh tight -money <br />andenvironmentallstpresst(res, the Bureau <br />appears to be in more ofa ca~taker's role, <br />and this tends to be di'tasrHul to some <br />employees who have long be~n accustomed <br />to building great water works!for (he West., <br />Perhaps there is a kem,'el of truth in <br />these views. The Bureau-DlStrict <br />relationship is certainly cha~ging. But of <br />greater importance -to north~astem <br />Colorado in 1987 is the indisputable fact <br />that 8 partnership was formeld fifty years <br />ago between the two organi4Ltions, one <br />which has worked extremely: well through <br />some difficult times. How was this <br />partnership formed?, <br />From its beginning in 1902 until <br />1937, nothing prepared the BUreau for the. <br />unique relationship it would h4ve with the <br />NCWCD. At no time had at\y of rhe <br />BureauJs reclamation projects tserved an <br />area where farmers and their communities <br />already existed and to whom a ~ast network <br />of dams, tunnels, siphons and1ditches <br />would provide supplemental Water. Never <br />had the Bureau joined in an atrangemetlt <br />as unique as that which was c~ntractual1y <br />negotiated with the NCWCD i,\ 1937. In <br />addition to thesupplemenral \Va~erfeature, <br />rhe Colorado- Big Thompson. rel\resente<ia <br />departure from earHer Rec1a:ma~ion <br />projects by lifting the limitatioi' of 160 <br />acres of farmland per person and by <br />providing that one-half of the ~payment <br />costs would come from hydroele4ric power <br />generation. <br />Above all, what needs to be <br />remembered is that both sides have <br />conducted themselves honorabl~ and to <br />the benefit of everyone concerned with <br />agriculture in northeastern Colorado. <br />.There have been few confli.cts ber{yeen the <br />Bureau and the Distrl-ct, even thPugh the <br />manufacture of power and deHver)\ of water <br />on a timely basis might seem to ~se <br />contradictory objectives. <br />What both sides have underlitood, <br />from 1937 to the present, is that;the <br />primary purpose of the C-BT is to P!'ovide <br />supplemental water to stablize th4 greatly <br />fluctuating runoff of the South PIIltte and <br />its four primary tributaries. Stated. clearly <br />in the Repayment Contract, this oHjective <br />h.. been respected by both partn~rs. <br /> <br />The Bureau's involvement with the <br />Districr began in 1935 when Secrhary of <br />the Interior Harold Ickes gave his approval <br /> <br /> <br />to a study of the proposed C-BT system by <br />the Bureau of Reclamation. During the <br />almost two years that this study was being <br />conducted, the V.S. Attorney General <br />gave his approval, and at each phase the <br />U.S: Oeological Survey furnished <br />Secretary Ickes with progress reports. <br />. The final Bureau report. known as the <br />Bunger Report, accomplished the <br />following: <br />1. an economic survey of northern <br />Colorado demonstrating the need and <br />. justification for the project. <br />2. a complete description al1d analysis of <br />the irrigable land and water supplies of <br />the Colorado River Basin proving the <br />existence of a surplus supply and <br />describing the measures necessary to <br />fully protect present and future <br />municipal and irrigation needs in <br />western Colorado. <br />3. description and plans ofoverJOof the <br />project's features, both'irrigation and <br />power1 and the function each one of <br />them would perform in this widespread, <br />mu.lti#purpose system. <br />Following the passage of the Colorado <br />Water Conservancy District Act and the <br />creation of the NCWCD, the District's <br />,Board of Directors negotiated a Repayment <br />Contract in which the Bureau accepted its <br />role as designer and builder of the system, <br />as well as owner and operator of its power <br />features. <br />It should be understood, however, <br />that the District also played an important <br />role in securing rights of way and in <br />developing the irrigation distribution. <br />system for the East Slope during the <br />twenty#year construction period. The <br />finished system began full operation in' <br />1957. <br />Now that the C- BT has been in . <br />operation {or thirty years, reflections of two <br />of its Bureau Project Managers have special <br />signi.ficance in this fiftieth anni.versary <br />issue of W A TERNEWS. Bob Berling was <br />Project Manager from 1973-1984 while <br />Ray Willms has been Project Manager <br />since 1984. The interviews have been <br />edited slightly to follow a more readable <br />question and answer format. <br /> <br />Bob Berling <br />Q. How do you think the farming situation <br />will change in the next 30 years! <br />A. I can see some of the marginal ditches <br />and marginal farms going out. I'm a farmer, <br />you know, and I still believe in farming, <br />but 1 would look /Or some of these farmers <br />to go out of business because it's so hard <br />to pay the operation and maintenance and <br />insurance. I look for some of them to fold, <br />which might be a way for cities to get more <br />water. <br />Q. What about water recycling? <br />A. I think there will be a day when the <br />people in the cities have to come first and <br />there will have to be some kind of <br /> <br />22 <br /> <br />- <br />