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<br />compensation for the' farmer. Cities will
<br />move up to the front of the Hne and say
<br />to the farmers, I\You'Ugetydurwater,- but
<br />we're going to use it' first. 'J
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<br />Q. WhaudxlUt changes in the Bureau?
<br />A. Well, the daY. of building. the C-BT
<br />and other projects are over1 It's kind of sad
<br />for me, because my father started with the
<br />Bureau at the time ofBould.er Dam, so we
<br />date hack to 1933. We really don't have a
<br />federal water program any more. If the .
<br />Poudre Project is developed, and I think it
<br />should be,it will have to be. done by the
<br />District or the state.
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<br />Q. What was the relati07lShip between the
<br />District and the Bureauduringyour tenure as
<br />Project Manager?
<br />A. The Bureau used to be a great deal more
<br />powerful, but I always viewed it as a partner
<br />with the District. During-qlY time, the
<br />philosophy and policy in Washington was
<br />to be .less involved, especially after 1977
<br />when President Carter decided there
<br />should be a separate Department of Energy
<br />and Department of Water, which forced us
<br />to deal with another bureaucracy called the'
<br />Western Area Power Authority.
<br />Meanwhile, the District went ahead with
<br />the Windy Oap Project while the Bureau
<br />W;lS relegated to the job of carrying the
<br />water over. Quite frankly. I don't think
<br />we'll see any- more djversion projects.
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<br />Q. Do you have any views on changes that
<br />might rake place in the future on East Slope
<br />streams?
<br />A. There Bfe some great things that can
<br />be done in a river basin by exchanges with
<br />one river system helping -out another in
<br />case o{.shortage: The water"supply is .
<br />seldom similarj it usually increases to the
<br />south or to the north", :and there_ are many
<br />opportlinities' for "exchanges wherever the
<br />drought is worse. I would like to see a water
<br />manager for the South Platte Basin, but I
<br />think there is a lot of fear on the part of
<br />these ditch companies and others about
<br />who that manager would be. It would be a
<br />powerful thing. Personally, I think the best
<br />water system I know of in the world is the
<br />. Thames Warer Authority in England
<br />which serves London, and these people
<br />have total authority over the water from
<br />the time it fans as precipitation until it is"
<br />discharged into the ocean. I think that
<br />really makes the best use of the resource.
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<br />Q. What is the future for additional projects
<br />Uke the C-BT?
<br />A. In the Thirtiesl Forties, and Fiftiest the
<br />Bureau was powerful enough; Congress and
<br />the Senate supported it. That was the time
<br />it seemed like we were able to do these
<br />projects. I don't think the C-BT could be
<br />built today with the environmental
<br />consideration we have. At the same timeJ
<br />I think the C- BT is an environmental
<br />project. It made life for man better on me
<br />East Slope, and I think that's why it's
<br />worthwhile.
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<br />The District and the Bureau:
<br />Thoughts on a PartnershiP
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<br />Some have said that the roles are
<br />reversing nOWj that the opee mighty
<br />Bureau of Reclamation isitaking its cue.
<br />from a previously silent p~rtner" the
<br />Northern Colorado Water Conservancy
<br />District. Others say that th~ Bureau's days
<br />are numbered; that the C$rter
<br />administration's decision eo create the
<br />Department'o{Energy and Western Area
<br />Power Administration in the Seventies
<br />started the gradual demise ;of an
<br />organization whose slngulari.mission was to
<br />reclaim western lands. Wilh tight -money
<br />andenvironmentallstpresst(res, the Bureau
<br />appears to be in more ofa ca~taker's role,
<br />and this tends to be di'tasrHul to some
<br />employees who have long be~n accustomed
<br />to building great water works!for (he West.,
<br />Perhaps there is a kem,'el of truth in
<br />these views. The Bureau-DlStrict
<br />relationship is certainly cha~ging. But of
<br />greater importance -to north~astem
<br />Colorado in 1987 is the indisputable fact
<br />that 8 partnership was formeld fifty years
<br />ago between the two organi4Ltions, one
<br />which has worked extremely: well through
<br />some difficult times. How was this
<br />partnership formed?,
<br />From its beginning in 1902 until
<br />1937, nothing prepared the BUreau for the.
<br />unique relationship it would h4ve with the
<br />NCWCD. At no time had at\y of rhe
<br />BureauJs reclamation projects tserved an
<br />area where farmers and their communities
<br />already existed and to whom a ~ast network
<br />of dams, tunnels, siphons and1ditches
<br />would provide supplemental Water. Never
<br />had the Bureau joined in an atrangemetlt
<br />as unique as that which was c~ntractual1y
<br />negotiated with the NCWCD i,\ 1937. In
<br />addition to thesupplemenral \Va~erfeature,
<br />rhe Colorado- Big Thompson. rel\resente<ia
<br />departure from earHer Rec1a:ma~ion
<br />projects by lifting the limitatioi' of 160
<br />acres of farmland per person and by
<br />providing that one-half of the ~payment
<br />costs would come from hydroele4ric power
<br />generation.
<br />Above all, what needs to be
<br />remembered is that both sides have
<br />conducted themselves honorabl~ and to
<br />the benefit of everyone concerned with
<br />agriculture in northeastern Colorado.
<br />.There have been few confli.cts ber{yeen the
<br />Bureau and the Distrl-ct, even thPugh the
<br />manufacture of power and deHver)\ of water
<br />on a timely basis might seem to ~se
<br />contradictory objectives.
<br />What both sides have underlitood,
<br />from 1937 to the present, is that;the
<br />primary purpose of the C-BT is to P!'ovide
<br />supplemental water to stablize th4 greatly
<br />fluctuating runoff of the South PIIltte and
<br />its four primary tributaries. Stated. clearly
<br />in the Repayment Contract, this oHjective
<br />h.. been respected by both partn~rs.
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<br />The Bureau's involvement with the
<br />Districr began in 1935 when Secrhary of
<br />the Interior Harold Ickes gave his approval
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<br />to a study of the proposed C-BT system by
<br />the Bureau of Reclamation. During the
<br />almost two years that this study was being
<br />conducted, the V.S. Attorney General
<br />gave his approval, and at each phase the
<br />U.S: Oeological Survey furnished
<br />Secretary Ickes with progress reports.
<br />. The final Bureau report. known as the
<br />Bunger Report, accomplished the
<br />following:
<br />1. an economic survey of northern
<br />Colorado demonstrating the need and
<br />. justification for the project.
<br />2. a complete description al1d analysis of
<br />the irrigable land and water supplies of
<br />the Colorado River Basin proving the
<br />existence of a surplus supply and
<br />describing the measures necessary to
<br />fully protect present and future
<br />municipal and irrigation needs in
<br />western Colorado.
<br />3. description and plans ofoverJOof the
<br />project's features, both'irrigation and
<br />power1 and the function each one of
<br />them would perform in this widespread,
<br />mu.lti#purpose system.
<br />Following the passage of the Colorado
<br />Water Conservancy District Act and the
<br />creation of the NCWCD, the District's
<br />,Board of Directors negotiated a Repayment
<br />Contract in which the Bureau accepted its
<br />role as designer and builder of the system,
<br />as well as owner and operator of its power
<br />features.
<br />It should be understood, however,
<br />that the District also played an important
<br />role in securing rights of way and in
<br />developing the irrigation distribution.
<br />system for the East Slope during the
<br />twenty#year construction period. The
<br />finished system began full operation in'
<br />1957.
<br />Now that the C- BT has been in .
<br />operation {or thirty years, reflections of two
<br />of its Bureau Project Managers have special
<br />signi.ficance in this fiftieth anni.versary
<br />issue of W A TERNEWS. Bob Berling was
<br />Project Manager from 1973-1984 while
<br />Ray Willms has been Project Manager
<br />since 1984. The interviews have been
<br />edited slightly to follow a more readable
<br />question and answer format.
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<br />Bob Berling
<br />Q. How do you think the farming situation
<br />will change in the next 30 years!
<br />A. I can see some of the marginal ditches
<br />and marginal farms going out. I'm a farmer,
<br />you know, and I still believe in farming,
<br />but 1 would look /Or some of these farmers
<br />to go out of business because it's so hard
<br />to pay the operation and maintenance and
<br />insurance. I look for some of them to fold,
<br />which might be a way for cities to get more
<br />water.
<br />Q. What about water recycling?
<br />A. I think there will be a day when the
<br />people in the cities have to come first and
<br />there will have to be some kind of
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