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<br />002735 <br /> <br />Keyes: What level of funding will Utah put into the Unita demonstra- <br /> <br /> <br />tion project? Summers: A rough estimate would be $75,000 in State funds and <br /> <br /> <br />another $35,000 from the Counties. Valantine: Are the Counties willing to put <br /> <br /> <br />up their share? Summers: They have already indicated a willingness to put up <br /> <br /> <br />the money. Hurley: Is this on a calendar year basis? Summers: The State and <br /> <br /> <br />County funds would be available next fall. <br /> <br /> <br />Tyner: Have you had any serious public relations problems with respect <br /> <br /> <br />to the weather modification programs in Utah? Summers: A retired SCS individual <br /> <br /> <br />(Greg Pearson) has, evaluated the snow course data in Utah and has released <br /> <br /> <br />potentially devastating research findings to the press---using a target/control <br /> <br /> <br />concept, the downwind areas had less snow than the target areas. He apparently <br /> <br /> <br />did not generate either public furor nor resistance from the Governor on the <br /> <br /> <br />program. He reported statistical findings of a 28% decrease in precipitation <br /> <br /> <br />downwind from the project areas and that putting another $500,000 of State money <br /> <br /> <br />into weather modification would only result in doing a better job of taking snow <br /> <br /> <br />away from the north and giving it to Southern Utah. Dr. Hill of Utah State <br /> <br /> <br />University also reported to the press that a zero increase on the target areas <br /> <br /> <br />had occurred and he blamed this on the use of ground generators. However, the <br /> <br /> <br />negative publicity has had no apparent impact on either the Legislature or the <br /> <br /> <br />Governor (he has never mentioned this press release in our negotiations). <br /> <br /> <br />Valantine: Are your prevailing storm patterns from the south, north- <br /> <br /> <br />ward towards the Unita Basin? Summers: The storms that produce a large amount <br /> <br /> <br />of precipitation in the Southern Utah area move across the State in a southwest- <br /> <br /> <br />northeasterly direction. The major snow in the north probably comes from west <br /> <br /> <br />and northwest storms. Another problem with Gregory's findings was his use of <br /> <br /> <br />the yearly snow course data on 1 April to develop his prediction or correlation <br /> <br /> <br />equations; then he used 3-year sums to develop th~ statistical findings of the <br /> <br /> <br />effect of seedi~g. When we used the same data, our results were not statisti- <br /> <br /> <br />cally significant (one way or another) with only three years of seeding. <br /> <br /> <br />Dennis: My major concern is with Hill's results. He was using <br /> <br /> <br />storms in his Monte Carlo experiments that were presented last summer at the <br /> <br /> <br />Utah Cloud Seeding Seminar. Summers: As far as I know. Dennis: Looking at <br /> <br /> <br />my notes on his presentation at the seminar, he said that 10 years of seeding <br /> <br />would be required before a significant result could be realized and his <br /> <br />36 <br />