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00273~ us why you have generators outside the target area on the eastside? Kahan: There are certain situations when upslope seeding sometimes works best. The important precipitation is more apt to come from upslope from the east when a low is located in southeast Colorado. Thereby, some downwind studies do not provide these different types of storm situations. Eastgate: Can we get more information like that out to the general public, to counter opponents' claims that you are robbing Peter for Paul's benefit? Kahan: We release the informa- tion, but 90% of the public is not motivated to read it. Television commentators are saying, with all the assurance in the world, it is a known fact that you decrease precipitation downwind of target areas---the fact of the matter is, it has been told to everybody that will listen, there is no scientific evidence as basis for their statements. Normally, only 5% on each side will hear the pre- sentations; the rest are indifferent. Keyes: How much effort is being spent on releases to the public? Kahan: The Bureau now has two full-time writers/editors who assemble and send out releases and n~letters to interested people. Eastgate: Please spread the word that such a mailing list exists. Summers: I agree whole- heartedly with Dr. Kahan, people only hear the information when they want to. People do not listen much when you are talking about downwind effects. Keyes: Were there hearings on all three program areas? Morrill: Yes Keyes: Was there any opposition at the hearings? Morrill: \ole had legislative hearings on each area and no opposition occurred, Also, there was permit hearings in each area. Kahan: The hearings in both Aspen and Leadville had opposition, In Aspen, the ski business indicated support, but other individuals felt the ski business should go broke and leave town. Others indicated a need for a conserva- tion effort--learn to live with less moisture. Leadville opposition was normal, in fact, one gentleman did not want to shovel more snow and he enjoyed the less snow years. Also, possible increased snow removal costs were introduced, however, most highway crews can handle most 20-30% increases under their present funding. Keyes: Was not a farm group behind the program? Kahan: The Farm Bureau was the group that provided a lot of support input to the Legislature. Valantine: What about self-imposed restrictions on seeding? The pilot project evaluation report cited these as a reason for not having more impressive augmentation figures. Tyner: The two kinds of limitations are: (1) halting seeding as soon as precipitation reaches a pre-determined 33 " f I ~ , I