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Douglas
Arapahoe
Community
Greenwood Village, Aurora
Stream Name
Cherry Creek
Basin
South Platte
Title
Probable Maximum Precipitation Study for Cherry Creek Reservoir - Related Technical Research Papers
Date
5/20/1990
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CWCB
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<br />. <br /> <br />storm to vary significantly across the country, and the ratio of an <br />individual maximized storm to a SS PMP shouid not be assumed to be <br />100%.. These statements must be left in the appendix as they were used in <br />the original arguments, but they did not contribute scientifically to any <br />conclusions, Again, it simply points to the need to be clear why and for <br />whom the original peer review was performed, and to be honest about some <br />biases that may have been represented. Now we need to move past those <br />biases, <br /> <br />Task 2, HMR 52 Run Verification <br /> <br />This task is hard to comment on, There is a lot of jargon, and it Is <br />difficult to evaiuate how much of an effort this task was for AWA It was <br />undertaken based on a concern (shown to be unfounded) that this may have <br />been run in error by NWS in the original SS PMP study, What specific <br />errors were you iooking for? Since you found none, did this increase your <br />confidence in NWS results? <br /> <br />Task 3, Sensitivity Studies <br /> <br />I was really looking forward to this section as a guide to <br />quantitatively show the relative importance of different factors and <br />assumptions contibutlng to PMP determinations, It started out very <br />strong with a clear and quantitative analysis of how dew point <br />temperatures relate to PMP, The case made for the importance of dew <br />point was so strong that it certainly made me think (since I was <br />listening to many global climate and climate change papers at the AMS <br />annual meeting) that it is a stretch these days NOT to try to include <br />some maximization factor for a potentially warmer and more humid <br />climate, There is already enough uncertainty in this PMP process and <br />there is no methodology in place to account for climate <br />change, However, if the effect on dewpoint temperature is very strong <br />and confident, we may need to at least talk about It. <br /> <br />The remainder of the sensitivity analyses were more like detailed <br />evaluations of the 1935 and 1965 storms with respect to several <br />important parameters and less like a true sensitivity study, This was <br />a bit disappointing for some of the parameters as this approach raised <br />more questions than It answered concerning just how much change in a given <br />parameter vaiue or assumption would affect the subsequent PMP <br />estimate, If possible, I would like to see some additional effort to <br />demonstrate the range of PMP estimates that could result from a range of <br />input parameters or assumptions for elements 4-8 presented as results of <br />sensitivity testing, I realize that this has to be qualitative for some <br />of the elements in light of the budget and time constraints. but it helps <br />us and others appreciate the relative importance of various parameters and <br />assumptions contributing to the final PMP values, <br /> <br />The analyses of the 1935 and 1965 storms were more detailed and <br />comprehensive than I expected and did provide some substance with which to <br />examine how extreme rainfall actually has and could fall in the Cherry <br />Creek Basin, The sample size of 3 events from two storm cases is really' <br />too small to draw some of the inferences that were being suggested -- such <br />as the arcs of storm centers suggesting some wave length originating <br />from Pikes Peak, It's OK to examine and speculate -- that's exploratory <br />research -- but you don't have much to stand on, and that may best be left <br />for oral discussion and interim reports but not for the final written <br />report, There was also a tone of "because the 1935 and 1965 storms <br />differed in certain ways from the Cherry Creek design PMP storm In terms <br />of storm positioning, duration, time distribution, and spatial <br /> <br />2 <br />
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