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County
Douglas
Arapahoe
Community
Greenwood Village, Aurora
Stream Name
Cherry Creek
Basin
South Platte
Title
Probable Maximum Precipitation Study for Cherry Creek Reservoir - Technical Reviews and Interim Reports
Date
10/1/1995
Prepared For
CWCB
Prepared By
CWCB
Floodplain - Doc Type
Project
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<br />PARSONS <br /> <br />Memorandum To Larry Lang <br />April 2, 2003 <br />Page 2 <br /> <br />Conclusions <br /> <br />Subject to resolution of some of my minor-issue questions marked in the margins of <br />my copy, and subject to practicable resolution of any significant remaining issues <br />identified by Lou or Nolan, and subject to the implications of my discussion of "latitude" <br />below, I am inclined to agree with AWA's recommendation in Section 12 that their site- <br />specific PMP study values can be used by CWCB to detennine the PMF for the basin. <br />The primary basis of my position is a standard that I believe is widely accepted by our <br />profession that any prudently-conducted detailed study supersedes regional analysis and <br />should be adopted by the review and approval agencies unless proven inaccurate. These <br />are my words, but I believe similar wording could be found in various professional <br />association or regulatory agency rules and regulations elsewhere. The whole concept and <br />definition of a "site-specific" PMP corroborates my notion that any more-detailed <br />analysis of the PMP for any area supercedes any less-detailed analysis. If this level of <br />detail was perfonned on any other basin, say the South Platte for example, it is likely that <br />the resulting depth of PMP rain would change. Had the PMP depth for Cherry Creek <br />increased, I believe that CWCB would be justified, and obligated, in using the new value <br />for PMF calculations. <br /> <br />Under this rule, I believe that NWS should put on their "review agency" hat and either <br />prove the study inaccurate or accept it under the "more detailed analysis" rule. I'm sure <br />NWS may disagree that they are a review agency, and may never agree with the study, <br />but I believe CWCB is allowed to apply the "more detailed analysis" rule on this issue, <br /> <br />Resolution of the differences with NWS does not appear possible. I think that a <br />discussion, either in a meeting or in the report, of what I call "latitude in the standards" <br />would be beneficial. By this I mean is it possible that the procedures used by A W A are <br />within "code," meaning that the defined procedures and standards in the HMR's have <br />sufficient latitude to embrace the variations employed here? If it can be proven that the <br />HMR's would absolutely forbid any of the significant aspects of this study, then CWCB <br />would have a decision to make as to whether they would accept a non-standard approach. <br /> <br />Regarding the second issue, orographic effects, I stated in my May 3rd memo that <br />A W A completed a large number of detailed analyses regarding orographic effects, inflow <br />wind directions, moisture depletion, downslope wind conditions, and topographic GIS <br />analysis, all of which indicate that a decrease in rainfall due to downslope wind <br />conditions might be justified. Yet they recommend use of a neutral condition. I <br />definitely agree that all this analysis points out that the upslope enhancement factors used <br />by the NWS study should continue to be challenged. <br /> <br />Another important consideration in settling these issues, besides the "more detailed <br />analysis" rule, is whether the methods used by A W A fit the universal definition of PMP, <br />especially regarding the tenn "possible." One of my comments on Interim Report #2 was <br />that A W A should provide supporting evidence that their findings on each issue fall <br />
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