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<br />I <br /> <br />MR. PETERSON: <br /> <br />I <br /> <br />MR. SPARKS: <br /> <br />1113 <br /> <br />Department of Agriculture on those projects. <br /> <br />I merely set forth in here that we <br />needed two additional people and those <br />people would be used primarily and almost <br />exclusively for project promotion work. <br />That is where we have been very, very <br />lax. I have met with representatives of <br />three different regions of the Bureau, 7, <br />5 and 4, concerning Colorado's participa- <br />tion in Bureau work and with people from <br />the three Corps of Engineers' districts <br />that we are concerned with. The unanimous <br />opinion of all the Federal agencies, not <br />only the Bureau and the Corps, but the De- <br />partment of Agriculture, has been that Colo- <br />rado has been the poorest state that they <br />have had to work with in the field of coordi- <br />nation and cooperation on various projects." <br /> <br />"Mr. Chairman, I would like to bring <br />out specific duties of such an engineer <br />which at the present time is bothering us <br />and that is this: the Bureau of Reclama- <br />tion, in some cases, has proposed projects <br />of such a nature that the local people who <br />have lived there all their years and know <br />what the situation is, pretty well, know the <br />projects cannot work out - they are too ex- <br />travagant. In other words, projects that <br />perhaps could not pay their own 'M' charges. <br />Who is going to point out to the Bureau of <br />Reclamation what the substitute is? Maybe <br />by reducing the size of the area, or obtain- <br />ing a different water supply than what had <br />been planned on by the Bureau of Reclamation, <br />the project can then become feasible. Now <br />the Bureau of Reclamation may prove their <br />plan feasible as far as they are concerned <br />but when it comes down to the water users <br />paying the 'M' charge through the years, they <br />know they can't do it. <br /> <br />Now that is one specific example of the <br />need of an engineer that can work out. those <br />details in such a manner they can be presented <br />to the Bureau of Reclamation and convince them <br />they should change the physical properties <br />of the proposed projects." <br /> <br />"In line with what Mr. Peterson has said <br />some of the Bureau people have told.me pri- <br />vately, and I can't quote their names, that <br />