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<br />I.LOO <br /> <br />MR. STAPLETON: <br /> <br />MR. MAHONEY: <br /> <br />MR. SPARI<S: <br /> <br />as an actual cost, not necessarily cash. This <br />was figured as the actual cost of moving util- <br />ities and securing the rights-of-way. It is <br />possible that some of the utilities, such as the <br />Public Service Company, will take care of their <br />lines without cost to the state. <br /> <br />I <br /> <br />Some of the landowners have already said <br />that there will be no cost to the state. Although <br />we call it an expense for cost figures. there is <br />no cash outlay. Whatever cash is necessary we <br />hope to get it from the State of Colorado through <br />the legislature. The legislature has already <br />appropriated $200.000. We are hoping that we can <br />do it for $200.000. Unfortunately when we deal <br />with people about land they get dollar signs in <br />their eyes. We believe that this project is a <br />tremendous benefit to the landowners and that <br />they should donate their land. We are dealing <br />with many people and they have differing view- <br />points. We have those who say, 'Yes, we recognize <br />the benefit.' Others say. 'What else is in it <br />for me?' This is a human problem and there is no <br />way we can get around it." <br /> <br />"Will you identify yourself please." <br /> <br />"I am Bob Mahoney. I take it that all of <br />this goes to prove that the channel is in and so <br />forth and we stop the erosion from going through <br />this seven and a half mile stretch and take this <br />clean water and dump it into Denver into the old <br />river - how far are we going to continue the <br />channelization on the river?' <br /> <br />"We see no problem as far as the Denver area <br />is concenred as long as that channel is kept in <br />reasonable shape. There is some debris in there <br />right today and some obstructions. but for the <br />most part the Denver channel did not overflow <br />during the '65 flood. The water backed up the <br />storm sewers and flowed into the low lying <br />ground adjacent to the river. Actually we are <br />talking about now a flood of considerable less <br />magnitude. We believe that the Denver area is <br /> <br />I <br />