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<br />Mr. Stapleton: It would be the Chair's impression if it were defeated, <br />to go on 1t 1ndividua1ly -- now, there is somebody from the audience? <br /> <br />From the Audience: Before you vote on this action, I would like to have <br />some explanation of the justification for going on a stream and asking <br />for a one second foot decree on something of that size, and what is <br />proposed to be accomplished by doing it. <br /> <br />Mr. Stapleton: Well, I am not acquainted with the one second foot that <br />he is referring to. Larry, do you have any comment on that? <br /> <br />Mr. Sparks: One second foot is better than nothing. We have many small <br />streams that have value. They don't necessarily produce lunker size <br />trout, but they have values for aquatic life and wildlife. <br /> <br />Mr. Burr: May I call for a roll call vote? <br /> <br />Mr. Saunders: The statutes have authorized this board to make appro- <br />priations on minimum flows. It is not mandatory. It is left to the <br />discretion of this board as to its implementation. What Mr. Moses <br />said -- he used one word that is very important, he said that, of course. <br />as I have suggested, the right of limitations on the purpose of the <br />appropriation which would in effect, he said, emasculate the purpose of <br />the statute. I do not believe we need to emasculate the purpose of the <br />statute. I don't believe the legislature intended to emasculate the <br />rights of the appropriators in the Yampa Valley, or anywhere else, to <br />change the point of diversion, place of use, the character of use of <br />their water rights by this act. They expected this board to use a sound <br />descretion. Now, it is a question of which to emasculate and haw much. <br />We are going to emasculate water rights to a certain degree if we have <br />minimum stream flows. There are areas where we need practically no <br />limitations because by maintaining those stream flows we will do no <br />substantial harm to other users. There are others where this board, I <br />believe, should strictly limit the intent to an appropriation for these <br />purposes as to not interfere with future transfers. The senior rights <br />are not hurt by transfer, and I think Mr. Moses and I are in complete <br />agreement, because we are up against the same things all the time. <br /> <br />Mr. Adkins: I am Ralph Adkins. I think the thing that we talked about <br />here in regard to the possibility of the danger of subsequent transfers <br />is probably more realistically borne out on Gageby Creek than it may be <br />in others. I would like to verify this with Game and Fish .- is this <br />correct? I am just wondering what would happen if Fort Lyon elects to <br />move its rights, and we are going to be faced with the possibility of not I <br />doing it, because you have put a requirement to maintain water in Gageby <br />Creek which will preclude the Fort Lyon1s ability to do this sort of <br />thing with their water rights. In a sense, this is entirely different <br />from a live river stream such as Crystal or some of the others in the <br />state. <br /> <br />I <br /> <br />Mr. Kochman: Mr. Chairman, I would like to apologize for not giving <br />my name the first time. I am Eddie Kochman and I am an employee with <br />the Colorado Division of Wildlife. We did make recommendations to the <br /> <br />-20- <br />