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<br />I <br /> <br />MR. STAPLETON: <br /> <br />MR. VALDEZ: <br /> <br />I <br /> <br />bigger meeting than this -- and I heard <br />the same thing. It's not a new approach. <br />It's just a new deal. It was so old that <br />people forget. The memory forgets. There <br />are men living right in this room tonight, <br />today, that will remember what was said <br />at that meeting in Monte Vista. The same <br />thing was said, Sellers, right? Isn't <br />that the same thing they talked about? <br />And I can't see nature changing this long <br />drought cycle, it might be increasing or <br />we might get temporary relief, but also <br />remember that you can't put more water <br />in a stream by building a dam than the <br />Lord put in it, you can't do it. It's <br />that simple. I didn't learn that in <br />engineering school. I had to learn that <br />the hard way afterwards. <br /> <br />Gentlemen, I thank you. <br /> <br />(Applause) <br /> <br />Now we are ready for the next question <br />or comment. <br /> <br />My name is Valdez, Route 2, Alamosa. <br /> <br />Whsn I was.13 years old, I traveled <br />in these mountains. What surprised me was <br />there were so many lakes in these mountains <br />and streams. And I have been watching. <br />I have been going every year since and <br />watching these lakes and streams and ever <br />since we started pumping water here in the <br />valley to save our crops I have been <br />watching the streams. When we started <br />pumping allover this valley and I think <br />we are already doing more pumping in this <br />valley, maybe more than enough. I have <br />been watching these lakes and the streams <br />up in the mountains and you would be <br />surprised the creeks and the lakes are <br />going dry. As soon as we start pumping, <br />running this, all this pumping -- and you <br />even see a lot of this timber going dry <br />in the mountains and there has been a <br />big difference in the mountains ever since <br />we started pumping. <br />