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<br />.,j l.lq. <br /> <br />the value for recreational purposes.'. I'm <br />not just certain just what all the first two <br />sentences involve nor purport. I think that <br />I can state, however, that the values for <br />recreational uses,I think that most of you <br />folks here today will admit that these values <br />are increasing day by day as more and more <br />people seek recreation and not only seek it, <br />but are almost demanding it. There are other <br />persons here in the room who have some very <br />fine statistics regarding the increased use of <br />this particular area. <br /> <br />I <br /> <br />As to the value for conservation purposes, <br />I presume that Mr. Danielson meant value for <br />agricultural purposes. There is a study that <br />has been conducted by the university of New <br />Mexico, I believe it is, regarding relative <br />values, monetary values, particularly in re- <br />gard to the San Juan-Chama Project. This new <br />study on economic values tends to reverse the <br />figures which we have been used to seeing. <br />Vfuereas in the past, agricultural values have <br />been far in advance of other values, recrea- <br />tion is now becoming a very important and a <br />high monetary value. <br /> <br />No.9, 'At times when John Martin Reser- <br />voir is empty, irrigators below the dam receive <br />considerable quantities of muddy river water, <br />which they consider advantageous in their <br />irrigation practices. With the institution of a <br />permanent pool, most water releases from John <br />Martin Reservoir in the future would consist of <br />clear, desilted water which they consider dis- <br />advantageous in irrigation.'. Mr. Milenski <br />brought this point out. Here, again, I am not <br />an irrigator. In talking to farmers, I would <br />agree that some of them that I have talked to <br />say that they'd rather have muddy water. It <br />seems to seal their ditches. On the other <br />hand, I wonder what the pump irrigators think. <br />They don't generally pump up muddy water into <br />their fields and I've seen .some very fine crops <br />down in the Baca County area where all of this <br />is under pump irrigation. The muddy water, of <br /> <br />I <br />