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J.O::lO , MR. NELSON: MR. SPARKS: MR. NELSON: ' MR. STAPLETON: MR. SCOTT: That is after the project power becomes available and as the increase takes place. Certainly Colorado would not stand still for any plan that did not contemplate the immediate construction of transmission lines into the State of Colorado as the first activity which the Bureau will under- take. And as I say, that has to get under- way in the preconstruct ion stage next year." "I was confused as to just when these lines would be constructed in these phases." I "Ralph, you were right when you said your plan was confusing. The first phase was that certain lines would be already constructed by the private power companies without reference to the project power." "I was confused as to that." "Mr. Scott, would you like to take the microphone, please?" "Gentlemen, I'm not sure that I can add a great deal to this but reference has been made to the preference users and the inter- state grouping of them. I am chairman of that particular grouping, the Upper Basin Preference Users' Committee for the states in the Upper Division. We have had contact with Arizona but have advised them that we are concerned with the upper division states. We might put some of this into a differ- ent context. The first plan was a transmis- sion system contained in the project report but it has been completely ignored and forgot- ten. The next one that was circulated or given any publicity at all, came from the preference users which was an all Bureau system, a naked backbone system, in which we tried to get these power plants intercon- nected leaving a considerable problem of I delivery of power from the plants to the users. Now that's a point that has not been brought up_ here and it is of considerable importance. Incidentally, the Rural Elec- tries are private companies too. We always like to have it remembered that when you talk about private companies, we are also private eVen though we are preference.