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<br />If you will recall, Congress had some past trouble during the adminis- <br />tration of President Nixon concerning impoundment of appropriated funds. <br /> <br />In order to terminate that type of practice by any President, the Con- <br />gress passed an act in 1974 which set up a budgetary procedure for both <br />Congress and the President. That act was signed by the President; at <br />that time it was President Ford. It prohibits the President from I. <br />impounding funds or terminating funds appropriated by Congress. unless <br />the President first notifies the Congress. The Congress has a certain <br />time period in which to respond to the President's request to terminate <br />the funds. If Congress tells the President that those funds cannot be <br />impounded or terminated, then it is illegal for the President to ter- <br />minate those funds. <br /> <br />Mr. Andrus was asked serveri'll questions concerning the impoundment of <br />funds. He stated that the President did not intend to impound the funds <br />for these projects. That answer appears to be entirely a matter of <br />semantics because, in fact, the funds have been impounded. The Bureau <br />of Reclamation has been told, "The funds are not impounded, but you can't <br />spend them." So what is it but an impoundment if you can't spend the <br />funds? <br /> <br />This is the exasperating situation that we are in. Apparently, the <br />administration thinks it can get around the law of this. country by say- <br />ing that it is not impounding funds, but they can't be spent. The <br />truth is that the. Bureau of Reclamation cannot spend the funds that have <br />been appropriated this year for any construction activity.: They can <br />continue planning, but no :construction activity. You will recall that <br />the Senate by an overwhelming vote recently attached a provision to the <br />public works bill advising the President that he had no authority to <br />impound funds presently appropriated and directing that he spend those <br />funds as .appropriated. <br /> <br />That Senate effort has no real legal effect that I can see, except that <br />the Senators did advise the President that they expected him to carry out <br />the laws of this country. <br /> <br />I have stated in this memorandum that we consider that the President's <br />budget, President Ford's budget, for fiscal '78 is adequate. In some <br />cases the Bureau would actually have the capability of spending more I <br />funds than was in President Ford's budget. I have some reservations <br />about asking for additional funds in view of the rather critical situ- <br />ation that we are faced with by the present administration, and per- <br />haps reluctance on the part of the Congress to exceed the Ford budget <br />when, in fact, President Carter has already requested a substantial <br />reduction in the Ford budget. I think it's a matter we should discuss <br />here tOday as to whether any of you from these project areas think that <br />you should request more funds. At this time, Mr. Chairman, it is the <br /> <br />-2- <br />