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' Glen Canyon Dam Technical Work Group Page 22 <br />DRAFT Minutes of March 16 -17, 2009, Meeting <br />choices of sites to be monitored and are impacts mitigated to the AMWG at its next meeting with the <br />provision that any recommendation will not alter the choice of sites selected for impact mitigation in 2009. <br />She said the HEC -RAS model is the flow line model that shows where flow lines are in Grand Canyon. It <br />' was peer reviewed and published and there were a series of flow lines that were run and made available so <br />they chose to use those rather than run any new model flow lines. It ran flow lines of 25, 45, 97, 125, 170, <br />and 210K cfs. Hoda ran the model against those sites and actually ran them against 132 sites that are <br />proposed for monitoring and /or mitigation. She said some of the overheads have some of the data that <br />came out of that effort. She said related to that sites up to 60,000 cfs have been mitigated so they're done <br />with all the sites that are up to 60,000 cfs. The flows in Grand Canyon run up 45,000 cfs and historically <br />they've run up as high as 95,000 cfs when they ran an earlier test in 1983. She said Mike Berry decided to <br />run a model of an evaluation to look at what are the factors that affect condition of sites in Grand Canyon <br />because condition was the decision cutoff of information potential in an archaeological sense as well as <br />condition of sites to determine treatment. The results of that statistical model is that it wasn't a significant <br />' factor in determining condition, that it didn't seem to make any difference as to what the flow is and to the <br />condition of the site. The CRAHG took a look at Mike's model and Hoda's presentation and discussed what <br />should be done and there wasn't agreement on what should be done with the data because the intent was <br />' how would you use that information to decide which sites should be excavated or treated for other reasons <br />as well as monitoring. They came up with a motion (printed on the AIF) and said the HEC -RAS model <br />probably has some utility because it does a good job of virtual shorelines. She said some of the sites are <br />' pretty good sized because they may be on bench that slopes and that site could be a 97,000 cfs and <br />125,000 cfs, etc., so many of the sites lie within multiple flow lines. She said there is an error with the HEC - <br />RAS model and it varies but it goes from .4 meters to 1.5 meters at the upper level. She said some of the <br />' error bars appear on Hoda's document. <br />Mike Berry said there were two classes of highest erosion versus the three classes of lowest erosion so <br />they had two dependent variables. The used the interval scale of variables on the Park Service database <br />which was river mile elevation, distance from the river and slope, along with the HEC -RAS. For the HEC - <br />RAS, they used a minimum inundation level for each individual site as considered. The analysis was not <br />robust in whole; it did not explain a great deal though it did correctly classify 77% on reclassification <br />' statistics. The HEC -RAS was the least discriminating of the five variables considered. After discussing this <br />with Reclamation staff, they would like to work their way back up from the bottom, the bathtub ring, as they <br />determine which sites will be excavated in any given year. They still don't know what causes erosion of the <br />sites but will use the HEC -RAS model as one of the criteria to determine which sites will be excavated in <br />any given year. Mary said that WAPA feels the HEC -RAS model should be used to the decision related to <br />sites in terms of prioritization and monitoring based on their location in the canyon and flow lines. The <br />CRAHG was not able to make a definitive decision on how best that should be used. It basically says <br />another look should be done in detail. <br />' Helen said if there were time she would've like to have talked about the limitations but said in a PPT she <br />passed around, "Analysis of Virtual Shorelines in Relation to Archaeological Sites in the Colorado River <br />Ecosystem" (Attachment 13), it contains concerns about using such a simplistic approach to assess dam <br />effects. The directed the members to the diagram on page 3 which depicts some sites in the second graph <br />that suggests there are sites that are well above the 210,000 cfs line. They have similar situations as shown <br />in the diagram where there are sites up on a terrace and because the GIS analyzes the surface of the sites <br />relative to some point of inundation, it won't show effects from lower flows. She feels that's an important <br />' caveat to keep in mind but also said there could be a reverse scenario where there is a site actually up on <br />the terrace surface and isn't being effected directly and may be showing inundation when, in fact, there is <br />very little of it. <br />11 <br />