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Weather Modification
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Addendum to Comments on "Weather Modification in Arizona, 1971" by Herbert B. Osborn
Prepared By
Wallace E. Howell
Date
1/1/1971
State
AZ
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<br />.....~. II "'i.. <br /> <br />liOn our part, we believe that the conclusion reached by <br />Dr. Decker is partly due to the complexity of his tables and <br />partly to the significance he attaches to area-to-area <br />comparisons. These we think are irrelevant. From the point <br />of view of effectiveness of cloud seeding, the only relevant <br />comparisons are between the seeded and not seeded precipita- <br />tion amounts in properly defined areas. Our own preference <br />would be a fixed target, perhaps with the entire circular <br />experimental area." <br /> <br />(The experimental area referred to is the 60-mile circle centered <br />on the radar and was divided in the original experimental plan into <br />in-plume areas influenced by seeding and out-plume areas not so <br />influenced. ) <br /> <br />No physical hypothesis was then or yet has been put forward to <br />explain cloud seeding effects outside the Whitetop in-plume <br />so Neyman and Scott appear to have committed the well-known fallacy <br />of reasoning from statistical inference to physical causality without <br />independent physical verification. A simple example of this fallacy <br />is to reason that the blooming of the daffodils causes the oak trees <br />to leaf. <br /> <br />Later, Neyman, et aI, (1969) after expanding their study to a circle <br />180 miles in diameter centered on the Whitetop radar site restated <br />their conviction that lithe evidence in support of a causal rela- <br />tionship between seeding and loss of rain appears quite strong" <br />but worried that liThe situation is aggravated by the absence of <br />an intelligible theory, even a hypothesis, on the mechanism through <br />which cloud seeding conducted as a 'local measure' could have large <br />effects some 150 miles away." After they had extended the study in <br />time as well as space and discovered that the randomly selected <br />seeded days were characterized by warmer, drier, and less cloudy <br />weather not only during and immediately after the hours of seeding <br />but also during the 10 or 11 hours immediately before seeding and <br />not only downwind but as much as 180 miles upwind (Lovasich, Neyman, <br />et aI, 1971a and 1971b), they concluded that "This difference could <br />not be due to seeding." They added, "In consequence, any conclusions <br />about the effectiveness of seeding, one way or the other, that are <br />based on the Whitetop experiment must be made with extreme caution." <br />The same conclusion is repeated by Neyman, et aI, (1972): "Until <br />a satisfactory explanation is found, this circumstance discourages <br />us from quoting the Whitetop results in support of any hypothesis <br />regarding the effects of seeding." This is a decisive abandonment <br />of the earlier position that rainfall deficits outside the seeded <br />plume should be attributed causally to the seeding, which means <br />abandonment of the sole grounds from which statistical significance <br />for rainfall decrease was inferred. Decker, et aI, (1971) meanwhile, <br />after subjecting in-plume and out-plume areas to a conventional <br />covariance regression analysis, reaffirmed the conclusion: <br /> <br />2 <br /> <br />/ <br />/ <br />
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