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influence decisions and make decisions, e.g., Arkansas Basin efficiency issues. We need to <br />know how much water is available in the Colorado Basin. <br />A. Davis: Doesn't want to constrain the free market. How do you determine what agriculture <br />comes out of production when you don't want to constrain the free market? <br />J. Danielson: The parcels that need to be dried up are scattered. He doesn't have a good answer. <br />C: Cua~r^ier: The problem with the market is that it doesn't account for non-economic values, i.e., <br />food security, recreation, enviromnent. The market doesn't put a value on these things. Is just <br />the market going to get us there? <br />T. W. Dickinson: Carlyle's recognition if we dry up Carlyle, we dry up the streams for the <br />environment. Fish may be taken but wouldn't have water with agriculture. The Yampa Valley <br />did have a riparian habitat before irrigation (the sage brush sea). If we are going to facilitate <br />this conversion discussion we need to monetize the non-monetary values. When Melinda, <br />Jeff Crane, and I are all cognizant we don't have the money to pay for all these items. <br />C: Barmy: He doesn't like where we are going because each group seeks to optimize their own <br />needs. Under prior appropriation it perpetuates waste and makes things dysfunctional. <br />Intense conservation in some parts of the state and not in others. We have the "haves" and <br />"have Hots." Uniform requirements on water use in Colorado we shouldn't have a program <br />that says in order to have the water you have to waste it. Need incentives of sharing shortages <br />and sharing of supplies. State support for implementation for broad water supply solution that <br />will take us into the next 30 years. <br />B. Ti~ampe: We are past what I would like Colorado to look like (more people, agriculture <br />fragmented). It is difficult to look at this as a Citizen. In my part of the world, water is not the <br />limiting factor for agriculture; it is economics (cost land vs. what it produces). With <br />fragmentation of agriculture - it takes a critical mass to keep agriculture viable. Not a simple <br />thing to keep agriculture there by just saying we are going to keep it. Somewhere down the <br />road we are going to pay the price. Our Gumlison Basin questions whether water will keep <br />tourism going -Crested Butte desolate because of cost of fuel. <br />R Wight: Advocate for flat areas of the state. As CEO of Colorado, Inc. it seems the mountain <br />areas fine, second home building business fine, recreational business fine (except need to <br />house migrant workers). Flat areas are not doing as well -schools, healthcare. Tend not to <br />make this a water issue. We let the ranches go. Liked Milce's comments on where your food <br />comes from and the distribution of food. The Olathe corn is fine but what about the pickle <br />plant in La Junta? Why are fanners so willing to sell? From the statewide perspective -the <br />regulatory environment and how it impacts the small business in Colorado is important. e.g., <br />Jolui Hickenlooper found it possible to build a microbrewery because of regulatory change. <br />Roadside stands closed because of the e. coli scare. A whole lot of regulation has <br />farmers/ranchers getting out. <br />7 <br />