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then get the water after the fact. What we are facing right now is that water has become on <br />the forefront of people's nunds. Growth is going to continue and we all realize that. It has to <br />continue to keep our economies going and growth drives the State of Colorado and if it slows <br />down it will cause problems. We've finally figured out that water is a finite resource in the <br />state. Reallocation of the water resource is going to be necessary. Ask people 50 years if <br />what we have today is acceptable they would say no. We need to be far more judicious with <br />what we do with our water in the future. Water has to be part of the growth planning stage as <br />we move forward. When this group was originally formed he was excited that this group <br />could create a vision and impact change. We no longer have the luxury of being independent. <br />We need to plan on how water will be used in the future not only brainstorming where we <br />need to be but how to get there. We are decades behind where we should be -drought of <br />2002 -CWCB did SWSI but it got people talking even if it has been controversial. We are <br />still not learning that we can be individual basins within the state. We need to tallc about how <br />we can integrate everything. The entire emphasis of the CWCB with SWSI was to get the <br />information out there. We should have been doing this 10 years ago. We can't make <br />decisions, we can't plan for the fiiture without the data -the consumptive and <br />Nonconsumptive needs assessments are important data. With regard to planning and <br />financing -Policy 18 was to provide some public good to have public equity in the water <br />project. There may be mutual benefit for water projects. There are a number of public <br />interests in water that we are trying to achieve and public should help pay. There needs to be <br />a change in thought about how we put projects together so that they are multi-purpose, multi- <br />funded, etc. Parochialism does not produce a maximization of benefits that you can get out of <br />water project and does promote the maximization of the water we have. <br />S: Cozier: One of Rio Grande Roundtable members said he wasn't going to be around in 50 <br />years. Didn't see anybody being excited about the future. Have lived on both sides of the <br />divide. It isn't very palatable to see what we see on the east slope (traffic, growth, etc.). <br />Agriculture has been a very important component of our values in Colorado and the west. A <br />lot of the comments said we need to continue to honor these values but consider other ones <br />(environment, recreation). No one mentioned in their comments global warming. If we are <br />going any place we need to be in a proactive position without destroying the free market. <br />There is a state master plan it is the prior appropriate doctrine that works fine until you run <br />out water. <br />J. Danielson: Commend Harris for forcing IBCC going through this exercise. What are we <br />doing? Being an engineer and not a philosopher, what vision do I want for Colorado? To <br />develop a vision you have to compete with constraints that exist. What are the constraints <br />that affect our vision? Carpenter, original Denver Water Board, etc. Look at their world (only <br />400,000 people). Now we have 5 million people between in the state. Growth decisions are <br />made ad hoc is a limitation. Prior appropriation is a limitation but people realized we live in a <br />water short area and this was designed to protect us. The econonucs of overturning the prior <br />appropriation would be overwhelming. The other limitation is the free market economy and <br />this economy makes decisions. If we cut agriculture by 4 percent, we can have 10 million <br />people in Colorado. At least 1 percent of agriculture needs to be dried up anyway. It is <br />wasteful and have water quality problems. We are not mal~ing the agriculture dry-up <br />decisions in a way that make sense. Government needs to be smart in terms of how we <br />6 <br />