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<br />CO:M.PAC'l'S AND AGREEMENTS BETWEEN CERTAJN S'.J:'ATES. 15
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<br />of the commission ,itscH-t1mt is" its stenographers and other ma-
<br />chinery. I .
<br />Mr, M1CHENER, We would be expecl:.ed to provide for a 'sl\l1r<', of
<br />that genera.l expense 1 .
<br />,Mr. C~\RPENTEn. Yes.
<br />Mr. NIJCJfENElL When I sav " we " I mean the United States Gov-
<br />ernment. ~
<br />Mr, CAJlPENTllJl, I think it would be proper that the Goverrunent
<br />"hould, but if it did not, (;he States would doubtless do it anyhow,
<br />'JvIr. GOODYKOONTZ. It would Scern to me that the expense is a
<br />Jilere trifling incident to our objed in developing that, phase of the
<br />matte.i'; hut, when this committee takes thE'. bill on the floor of the
<br />T-Iollse lL will be asked a a.-ood many CjuC'"'"':itions about tlllLt, and we
<br />uught to bo prepared to J~mke some intelligent reply,
<br />Mr, YATES, Yes; we WIll surely be asked,
<br />Mr. MWlIENER. To me the. expense is very material.
<br />Mr, Boms, The States Olwht not t.o pay the, expense of that com-
<br />missioner, because_ he wDuld be. under suspicion, especi!tlly if they
<br />gave him n. la.rge fee, of being influenced, and he ought to be free.
<br />Mr, C~\H[,EN1'Ji:H. I would most heartily concur in that. I know
<br />that as eommissioner from Colorado I would not care to be com-
<br />pensatecl by anybody else, and I would not care to h,we 'lilY part of
<br />my expense borne by anybod:y else, I would wish to be free to enter
<br />or Wil;hdl':LW as I may be adVIsed.
<br />J.\.fr. BOl.ES. This j)1n.n suggested here, to my mind, givE'S jurisdic.
<br />tion to every possil) e interest that might come in, and thei r interests
<br />will all be determined n.nd forecast in this proceeding, t,he Govern-
<br />mo,nt as well as the States,
<br />.Mr, CAJlJ'F.NTEJl, That is the final analysis of the subjcet, aud the
<br />interests having been settled, both the States and the Government
<br />Jllay ,proeeed with some degree of certainty as to fllt,ure invest-
<br />ments. Yon know the investments in those enormons reservoirs in
<br />the canyon will run into many millions, and the investments in the
<br />States alr"ady run into ITIllny millions; I mean the investments bv
<br />private ilH.liv:idun.ls. '
<br />WithouL any disposition to in any way detraet from the wonder-
<br />ful work that has been do:ne by governmental agencies, I simply wa.nt
<br />to call vour attention t,o the fact that I am ad vised that the 1910
<br />Gensus shows that of all the lands irrigated in the United States 2t
<br />]leI' cent only were served hy Government projects, and that probllbly
<br />the 1920 census will show probably not over 5 per cent of those lands
<br />se,'yod by United States projects, My reason for mentioning that is
<br />to call to your, attention the ~act that th9:0"rfyjiWi."da/:J'~opment has
<br />\)(',CH by what IS known as pnvn.t.e. cal~lto.r. tliei.;e.e So Ferry de-
<br />ynlopmcnt ~_ f':ae..f:3~"3"lr .;:::J;t is not a. Government-project a.t all. It
<br />is proJlosed by the, California Edison Co, primarily for the purpose
<br />of generating power for .tlle supply of Los Angeles and t.hat whole
<br />re~ion. .
<br />:Mr. BOIES. I-IavB you ~1.ny information about whnt t,he comparative
<br />expense is on the piU't of the various individua.ls and t.he Nation fOl
<br />the: results obt"inecll
<br />Mr. CAlIl'ENTEn~ I-Iaving had un unplea.sant. disagreement with one
<br />member of a government.al department here respecting that, 1 would
<br />not care to enter upon that subject now, I mi[!ht state that that
<br />nJ._:ttter has be_en _more 01" less in. contl"o~e,rs.y, l111d I do not. know but
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