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<br />C:OMPACT;:j AND Al1UEBMBNTS DETWEl!,N CERTAIN STATES. 13 <br /> <br />Mr, MICHENER, As a legal proposition you are satisfied that tl,,\t <br />can be oone? <br />: Mr, CARPEN'rER, Yes; indeed, In fuet, I might state further that <br />having been upon three of those interstate water suits, I !tm convinced <br />that it is wild folly to cntcr into litigation unti I this method has been <br />cxhausted, and that none of those suits should have been filed without <br />a preliminary requirement by the court or an attempt to force those <br />Statcs to a peaccablc settlement of their differences, And I,he dispo- <br />sition of the court in that respect appears in the Saud Island case, <br />in the Columbi.u River, between W n.shington and Oregon. The States <br />having- quarreled over the island for YODI'S, the Supreme Court <br />finally (,urn.eel the BlaLtOl' back to the Stntes, with t.he suggest-ion that <br />they settle lt b,y, ccmpaet, the same as boundaries are settled, <br />Mr, Boms, '1 hey probably, as a mlttter of hw, could not settle it <br />umong thomselves without the approva.l of Congress. <br />:Ml'. Cl\1U'ENTJi',R. They could not, to be. sure; but where t.he ma.tter <br />is primltrily one between the States, as in a case involving bounda.ries, <br />as.I read the reports, tho consent of Cungress usually goes as (1 matter <br />of form. <br />Mr, YATES, I want to ask whether there is language in this bill, <br />or in an)' line of decisions affecting the quesl.ion, that would make a <br />compact approved by the commissioner so binding that they could <br />not get; away from it and got into this unfortunate lItigation 1 . <br />]\I[r. CAHPEN'l'I::R. Yes. The general construction of intcn:;tate com- <br />pacts, which are older tban the Constitution, is that when a compact <br />has been entered into between States it then beconlcs a document that <br />the Supreme Court of the United States may enforce betwee:t&~ Is <br />parties, A discussion of that will be found iu the case of +I:, I, e I <br />v, Massachusetts, in the early reports, I also have that in the memo- <br />randum which I will, with your permission, incorporate in the record, <br />Mr, M,cHENEa, Just one question: As I understand your st,ate- <br />ment., two courses are open. The States' could go on and make this <br />tenta.tive arrangement :l.IlCI then come in and ask for c.onfirmation <br />oJ it? <br />Ml'. CAHPEN1'En. Yes, sir. <br />Mr, M1CHENBR, 01' they could adopt this method, And you havo <br />~dopted this method, principally because you de.sire that a commis- <br />sioner bo appointed to represent the United States Govllrnment and <br />that, tlw Governmcnt should be a party to the negotiation and in the <br />consideration of the mat.ter? That is true, is it not? <br />Mr. CAUPENTF.ll. Yes, sir. <br />Mr, MrCIiEN>:u, That is the real purpose of t,his particular measure <br />at this t.ime, is it not? <br />M 1', CARPENTER, WeU, it is one of the real purposes, It was <br />thought advisable, inasmuch as seven Sta.tes were involved, to obtain <br />" consent:" in the lnngmt.ge of the Constitution, ~n the first instl1nc~ j <br />the word" consent," rather than" approval," bemg the (;erm llsed In <br />the Constitution, <br />Ml'. MICHENER, Ye,s; I understand tllat, <br />Mr, CAHPENTEll, And sceond, in view of thc fact that the United <br />St.ates has certain interests in that river, it was thought advisal?le <br />that a representative of the United Stat,cs be present ill t,his negotIa- <br />tion, <br />I might state further, ill that connection, tl~at it would be to tl~e <br />liking oJ the Westcrn States d that eommlSSlOllCI' could have suili. <br />