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Jerry Daub: <br />I did, in fact. We mapped the fractures on several levels. They were closed and healed with <br />a secondary precipitate of nahcolite. It was a white crystalline nahcolite. What you're <br />looking at in some of those photos, the darker brown nodules are nahcolite, I have photos of <br />the entire mine. There were some fractures on the ribs, but most of them are on the back so <br />you can see a northwest and a northeast trend. In all cases the fractured were healed and <br />filled with a secondary white crystalline nahcolite. I don't recall any open fractures. And <br />that's the driest mine I've ever been in, it's just completely dry. <br />Paul Daggett: <br />Was there any dewatering or water pumping at all to keep the mine open? <br />Jerry Daub: <br />At the bottom of the shaft, there was a little bit, but that was from the overlying area. When <br />they initially sunk that, they actually bored the shaft, drilled it with an 8- ft- diameter drill. <br />They actually drilled that down 2,300 ft. It's open on four different levels, the 1840, 2060, <br />and the 2130 and 2230 levels. Then they did a vertical crater retreat between the 2130 and <br />2230 -ft levels. But there was no water at any of those levels, out away from the borehole that <br />was drilled. They steel -lined the shaft with casing and then cemented it, yet there was still <br />some water that was coming in from up above, just trickling down the annular space, but <br />very minimal. <br />Paul von Guerard: <br />I remember when they were drilling that and there was a period when there was quite a bit of <br />water. I don't remember the duration. The high- volume pumping was probably when they <br />were drilling through the aquifer system to create the shaft. Once the shaft was lined with <br />cement—it was long ago, too long to remember. <br />Jerry Daub: <br />They also had an underground fire in that mine at the 2060 level, and that was the result of <br />ignition of the oil shale that was quite rich. The Bureau of Mines actually ended up having to <br />flood the shaft in order to put it out. Then they ended up pumping it out to go back into the <br />mine. <br />Paul von Guerard: <br />It probably would have been nahcolite saturated by the time they pumped it back out. <br />Jerry Daub: <br />There's not much nahcolite on the 2060 level, but it could have been. Then the U.S. Bureau <br />of Mines ran out of money to do any other work, and Multi Mineral Corporation came in to <br />do a couple years worth of work. That's when I got involved in the operation. Does anyone <br />else have any comments or questions about AmerAlia's plans? <br />Harry Posey: <br />Have you guys looked over the American Soda application? Particularly, have you looked at <br />their monitoring plans? <br />8 <br />