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May Day & Idaho Mill Complex - General Stormwater Comments <br />Page 2 <br />March 1, 2011 <br />discussed in the SWMP, Attachment T-4. Please indicate in the narrative and/or Figures <br />SWMP-1 and SWMP-2 if and where these BMPs will be used, or remove them if they <br />will not be used. <br />4. Precipitation amounts: Several Tables (e.g., Table A - Drainage Basin Flow Analysis- <br />Upper Deadwood Gulch Drainage) include references to Technical Paper 40. Please note <br />that TP-40 is not applicable to western Colorado. NOAA Atlas II, Volume 3 or the other <br />listed reference (Peak flows in Colorado by Wilkes, et al) should be used for storm depth <br />estimations. Appropriate references indicate the 10-year, 24-hour storm depth for the site <br />to be approximately 2.7 inches, not the 2.5 inches listed in Table A. <br />5. Attachment T-4 p. 1 footnote: The footnote states the contributing drainage area to all <br />road ditches is limited to 30 acres. A comparison of Figures SWMP-1 and SWMP-2 <br />suggests there is more than 30 acres contributing runoff to the existing access road <br />between May Day #2 and the Lamb Portal. Please provide a narrative and a figure if <br />necessary to explain how the 30-acre limit will be achieved, everywhere. <br />a. Note that a quick calculation using a 2.7-inch 10-year storm depth, curve number <br />of 65, and Wilkes, et al "Peak Flows in Colorado" yields an estimated 12 cfs from <br />30 acres with a greater than 16 percent slope. This is a considerable amount of <br />flow for a roadside "V" ditch with 1 H:1 V side slopes at a 10 percent grade (as <br />suggested in Table SWMP I - Access Road Ditch). DRMS anticipates a riprap <br />blanket two feet thick with 12 inch diameter rock will be required to protect this <br />type of ditch under these circumstances and need to be 1.3 feet deep (plus <br />freeboard). Also note that ditches with 1H:1V side slopes will require frequent <br />maintenance as they tend to collapse in on themselves with or without flow. The <br />minimum accepted ditch side slopes are typically 2H:1 V, with 2.5H:1 V preferred. <br />Please address these concerns in your response. <br />b. Ditch riprap should be designed for both stability and capacity (i.e., minimum and <br />maximum expected roughness, respectively), consider the minimum and <br />maximum expected design gradients for each reach, and use methodology <br />appropriate for the design gradient(s). <br />6. Exhibits C-5 and C-8, vegetation and soils, respectively, only provide information within <br />the permit boundary. Run-on from upgradient contributing drainage basins (as delineated <br />in Figure SWMP-2) require soils and vegetation information to estimate stormwater peak <br />flows and/or volumes. Please provide soils and vegetation information for all <br />contributing drainage basins. <br />7. Please clarify the meaning of, or remove "Sq feet" under the column labeled "Rainfall <br />Amount" and "Acres" under the column labeled "Runoff' as necessary on page 1 of <br />Tables SWMP A, B, C, D, G, an H. <br />8. Culvert Designs - Tables SWMP D, E and F: Page one of each table references <br />Haested's CulvertMaster software package. However, it appears that Haested's <br />F1owMaster software was used to perform the culvert analyses. A full-flow pipe analysis <br />is not appropriate for culvert design or analyses. This approach fails to account for head <br />loss at the culvert entrance and outlet. It should be noted that a considerable amount of <br />head is required to force a culvert on a relatively steep slope (e.g. 3 % in Tables SWMP <br />D & F) to flow full. Standard engineering practice for allowable head at a culvert <br />mAmin\tc1 \m-1981-185 maydayidaho\stormwatercomments_mem01 mar11.docx