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DRMS Permit Index
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M2001023
IBM Index Class Name
REVISION
Doc Date
2/17/2009
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Amendment application
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Camilletti and Sonsm Inc.
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DRMS
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AM1
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Dave Zehner <br />Milner Pit No. 2 Expansion <br />Floodplain Evaluation <br />Page 3 of 7 <br />February 3, 2009 <br />4. The dashed lines represent the channel of the Yampa River and Trout Creek as <br />of October, 2003. Note that in places the channel is actually outside of FEMA's <br />mapped floodway. <br />This reveals a discrepancy in FEMA's maps, because by definition the floodway <br />must be at least as wide as the channel, and the channel cannot be outside of <br />the mapped floodway. This type of discrepancy occurs when FEMA mapping is <br />based only on cross-section data, without the benefit of simultaneous aerial <br />photography, or when, subsequent channel erosion occurs. In reality, what this <br />type of discrepancy shows is that floodplain mapping is no better than the input <br />data, and secondly, is only a snapshot in time which can be out of date in short <br />order simply because streams are dynamic systems that change over time. <br />From a pragmatic perspective, the floodplain maps are useful for general <br />planning purposes, but have! to be adjusted to meet current reality, and have a <br />limited useful life. <br />Map No. 2 provides greater detail of the proposed expansion area. It includes site <br />specific topography. Several observations are likewise in order. <br />1. Vertical datums are critical issues for all mapping, and perhaps more so for <br />floodplain mapping. <br />2. The site datum for the existing pit and proposed expansion are based on the <br />1929 NGVD vertical datum. However, variances in survey methodology lead to <br />various degrees of error. <br />3. The site elevations for FEMA's work were originally based on the 1929 NGVD, <br />but were later adjusted to supposedly be on the 1988 NAVD datum. <br />Unfortunately, in many conversations and correspondence with FEMA staff over <br />the course of the past half dozen years, there is incomplete documentation as to <br />exactly how the current maps were generated. FEMA's best conclusion is that <br />WATM REBOURCS CONSULTANTS, LLC
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