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DRMS Permit Index
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C1981008
IBM Index Class Name
GENERAL DOCUMENTS
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5/29/2008
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E-mail Regarding Vegetation Sampling
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Shawn Conner
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Vegetation
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DTM
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Pagel of 2 <br />Mathews, Dan <br />From: Mathews, Dan <br />Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:41 PM <br />To: 'Shawn Conner' <br />Cc: greg@lewicki.biz; Ross Gubka (rgubka@wfcnucla.org); Brown, Sandy; Talvitie, Marcia <br />Subject: RE: WFC NH-2 2008 Veg Analysis Plan <br />is \J.9 Sam?l?n? <br />Shawn: <br />Thanks for the reminder. The sampling plan was in a stack "to do" but not at the top. Anyway, I did just now look <br />the plan over. There are a couple minor issues that need to be clarified, and 1 significant concern that I have. <br />The significant concern I have is with the plan to include the 21.2 acre "first year Phase 3 Irrigated Pasture area" <br />in the same "sampling universe" as the 130.1 acre "second year Phase 3 Irrigated Pasture area", for bond release <br />success demonstration. This seems illogical and contrary to regulatory intent, and does not conform with Division <br />guidelines and past precedent. The approach is not acceptable. <br />Logical units for Phase III bond release need to be defined at the outset, and remain the same throughout the <br />multiple year success demonstration period. The same 130.1 acre irrigated pasture block for which success was <br />demonstrated last year will need to be sampled again this year, and success will need to be demonstrated for that <br />block based on adequate sampling of that block by itself either this year or in the next couple years, in order for it <br />to qualify for Phase III bond release. We can't have a revolving door situation in which the block sampled for final <br />bond release changes between 1st year sampling and subsequent year sampling. Separate sampling blocks will <br />need to be established for the Year 2, 130.1 acre block, and the Year 1, 21.2 acre block (if the operator wishes to <br />go forward with the 21.2 acre block sampling this year). <br />The minor concerns, which need to be clarified, include the following: <br />1. In Section 1.0, first paragraph, "2 out of 3 consecutive years" should be "at least two of the last four years of <br />the liability period", pursuant to Rule 4.15.7(5). <br />2. In Section 2.2, Paragraph 4, the phrase "until either sample adequacy is reached ...or a minimum of 15 to 30 <br />samples is reached, depending on the statistical methods to be used" could be interpreted to mean that an <br />adequate sample size could be obtained with fewer than 15 samples, or without meeting sample adequacy, as <br />long as a minimum size of 15 is met (neither of which is the case). Since the details regarding sample size <br />determination are spelled out in Section 2.3, 1 would recommend that the first sentence of Section 2.2, paragraph <br />4 be revised to state "For both cover and production, sample size will be determined as specified in Section 2.3, <br />depending on the statistical methods to be used". <br />3. Under Definitions on page 5, please verify that the criteria/definitions are consistent with the approved <br />permit and last year's (Year 1) sampling. Note, the 10% allowance regarding annuals is addressed in the 1995 <br />Bond Release Guidelines, and is based on relative cover, not absolute cover. <br />4. In the first sentence under Section 2.3, 1 would recommend that the statement "A minimum sample size of 15 <br />is required at each site" be replaced with "A minimum sample size of 15 or 30 will be required, depending on the <br />comparison methodology employed, as addressed below". <br />5. In Items 1 and 2 under "Comparison of Measured Parameters", on page 6, 1 would recommend that <br />"and sample size of at least 15 is met", be inserted after "if sample adequacy is achieved". "Mean" in both cases <br />in Item 1 and in the first sentence of Item 2 should be "Sample Mean". <br />6. Under Item 3, reference to the "Equation 2" t-test is not correct and needs to be revised. See the formula in <br />Rule 4.15.11(2)(c); the numerator terms for the "reverse null" test are reversed compared to the "Equation 2" test. <br />Also "mean" in the second sentence of Item 3 should be "sample mean". Also, under the Item 3 approach, should <br />5/29/2008
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