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-57- <br />• MR. JOHNSON: Yes, -- and were either rip rap or, you know, they were <br />designed to be stable at those velocities. <br />MS. BALDRIGE: It was the peak flows, rather than the design storms that <br />governed the design. <br />MR. BARRY: Did you hear that in the back? <br /> <br />FLOOR: No. <br />MS. BALDRIGE: It was the peak flows rather than the design storms that <br />governed the worst case design. <br />MR. HOLDER: That would include culverts on the roads, ditches for the <br />road and so on. <br />• MS. BALDRIGE: That's correct. It's all in Section D.9 of 'the permit <br />application. <br />MR. JOUFLAS: Luke? <br />MR. DANIEL SON: Yeah. I had a couple of questions about things you said, <br />Anne. One of them is you said that if these measures proved ineffective, <br />additional measures would be taken and, I know that the amount of sediment <br />generated in any kind of a rain storm will be somewhere between 0 and some <br />upper limit, and I guess the question is, what is ineffective ants how do we -- <br />is there same kind of a number or same kind of a test in there fcor whether we <br />decide that these measures aren't working and -- or aren't adequate and we <br />need to improve them? <br />MS. BALDRIGE: I think the determination is made based upon sediment <br />generation. The measures that we've outlined are in place to eljminate the <br />sediment generation on the site; by stabilizing the road slopes through <br /> <br />